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  • Jun 22, 2022
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    Flaphead

    See, I thought this, but:

    https://twitter.com/wsj/status/1539344684572622849

    This seems to be some kind of industry-level reform plan with the world’s s***tiest timing and execution

    this might make s*** go mad max

  • Jun 22, 2022

    Man what the f*** I didn’t deserve to get bottom-paged with that last post

  • Jun 22, 2022

    stupid

  • Jun 22, 2022
    allmygirlsdoyoga

    It really depends on what you’re vaping. If you’re vaping quality vape juice, then it is basically harmless compared to the effects of smoking tobacco or even weed

    Yea i mean smoking is definitely worse than vaping but inhaling anything that isnt oxygen cant br good for ur lungs

    Plus nic users be hitting that s*** way more than weed

  • Jun 22, 2022

    cigs are gross and were downtrending, so they added juicy fruit to it to get the kids addicted

  • Kr0niic

    Why is it only juul being banned though there’s plenty of other e cigs

    because this isn’t about people it’s about politics lol


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  • AR15 🐺
    Jun 22, 2022
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    Flaphead

    Biden you stupid motherfucker

    It’s an election year and the economy is tanking and you’ve consistently let your young voter base down

    Weed is right there to be legalized with sentences expunged

    Student loan reform is right there

    Healthcare reform is right there

    But nope let’s ban juuls

  • Jun 22, 2022
    Mesaih

    Biden is guaranteed to lose lmfao

  • Jun 22, 2022
    Kr0niic

    Why is it only juul being banned though there’s plenty of other e cigs

  • Jun 22, 2022
    AR15

    I can’t lie that first photo remains raw as f***

  • Jun 22, 2022

    JUUL been dead
    too little too late

    kids are on a bunch of vapes that got even more nic then these s***s had

  • Jun 22, 2022
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    Now ban actual cigarettes

  • Jun 22, 2022
    Flaphead

    By consistently alienating not only the progressive wing of the party, but the entire next generation of democrat voters who are growing up in an absolute s***show largely caused by the last admin and barely addressed by the current one - the one that was supposed to be the “progressive” alternative.

    We just gave up on the pandemic and let it rip, I’m not optimistic about any kind of healthcare infrastructure being put into place to help the future long Covid survivors either.

    We’re seeing an exodus of crucial frontline workers from teachers to nurses to firefighters, and I can’t blame them because minimum wage is still f***ing $7.25 and there’s hardly been any kind of incentives to make up for how much more dangerous and thankless those jobs got during the pandemic.

    Our gun problem is worsening and the “reform” bill was disgustingly weak, meanwhile the police in Uvalde are clearly in the process of obstructing the law and no one cares at the federal level.

    Inflation is rampant and both homes and gas prices are starting to price out the middle class from their existing lifestyle, and Biden has been happy to blame the war for gas (partially true but the buck stops with him and he’s waffling on a tax holiday, which is, again, the bare minimum) and completely ignore the structural/capitalistic failures leading to the housing market.

    And now we’re getting headlines like this that play right into conservative talking points and directly disadvantage the next generation of democrat voters while continuing to ignore what they voted for in the first place.

    If you look at where we were in 2020 versus now, we have been failed by two leaders of opposite parties. The difference is that Trump failed for deliberate lack of trying (and arguably succeeded in f***ing up our courts and general political norms for the foreseeable future) and Biden ran on fixing the mess and gave lip service to plenty of progressive plans until it came time to actually execute. He’s been the most stubborn neoliberal we could’ve possibly had (never forget how the 2020 primaries went, for that matter) and it’s absolutely disgusting that we were forced into a situation where “nothing will fundamentally change” was objectively better than “things will rapidly continue to deteriorate unabated while the rich profit.”

    I’m pissed because this is poisoning the well for a generation coming of age in this absolute s***show, the ones who are learning progressive ideals younger and younger and have the chance to actually make a difference. Instead, we’re stuck behind these leaders who’ve already prospered and don’t want to rock the boat to save the rest of us who haven’t had the chance.

    Edit: and to actually answer your question because I got off track lmao: the voters this fall and in 2024 are going to be hard pressed to believe the same “we’re the ones who can fix this!” rhetoric that barely won in 2020. If anything, the right has only become bolder and more energized. Radically regressive ideals are becoming mainstream; again, look at TX. That’s what we’re up against, and Biden is a laughable face of the party that’s supposed to actually be the better option.

    Absolutely right. Don’t have much to add to it. I just wanted to hear your perspective

  • Jun 22, 2022
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    Flaphead

    See, I thought this, but:

    https://twitter.com/wsj/status/1539344684572622849

    This seems to be some kind of industry-level reform plan with the world’s s***tiest timing and execution

    hate to sound like a cig shill but taking away cigs during one of the worst recessions without really fixing d*** laws just seems like a misguided attempt at saving people turning into an attack on the poor

  • Jun 22, 2022
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    Flaphead

    And this is all coming from someone who personally doesn’t f*** with tobacco/nicotine at all and much prefers a good cannabis high. I have no love for this industry. But prohibition is proven to fail and this is going to blow up in their faces at the absolute worst time

    an FDA ban isn't prohibition. this is the right policy

  • Jun 22, 2022
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    Plankton

    an FDA ban isn't prohibition. this is the right policy

    Peep the post directly above yours from @AmoryBlain . It’s a fine idea in theory executed in a godawful way that will harm more than it helps

  • Jun 22, 2022
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    Flaphead

    Peep the post directly above yours from @AmoryBlain . It’s a fine idea in theory executed in a godawful way that will harm more than it helps

    How is it gonna harm people?

  • Jun 22, 2022
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    Plankton

    How is it gonna harm people?

    Directly, by causing a. A rush to buy the last stocks of them and b. Encouraging less regulated alternatives. Hence why I call this prohibition. The effect is the same; it encourages people to look for other options with less safety oversight.

    Indirectly, by handing a prime piece of political capital to the right at a time where deregulation movements are gaining steam. This will be used as an argument against federal oversight in the fall, and it will directly speak to young voters who are crucial to keeping radical conservatives out of power at a time that they’re more emboldened than ever.

  • Jun 22, 2022

    Oh boy another way the govt can oppress minorities

  • Jun 22, 2022
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    Flaphead

    Directly, by causing a. A rush to buy the last stocks of them and b. Encouraging less regulated alternatives. Hence why I call this prohibition. The effect is the same; it encourages people to look for other options with less safety oversight.

    Indirectly, by handing a prime piece of political capital to the right at a time where deregulation movements are gaining steam. This will be used as an argument against federal oversight in the fall, and it will directly speak to young voters who are crucial to keeping radical conservatives out of power at a time that they’re more emboldened than ever.

    Your first argument is a bit of a stretch. I don’t see how the Puff Bar or whatever is significantly less safe than Juul, just harder to find. For someone like me this will probably be the nail in the coffin for my nicotine use.

    Your second point is a better one, but there’s something to be said for pursuing the correct policy regardless of the political climate

  • Jun 22, 2022
    Flaphead

    Between this and the Texas GOP news I’m f***ing terrified for 2024

    Bro is nosediving the country in a way Trump could never have dreamed of achieving

  • Jun 22, 2022
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    Good, now how about banning alcohol?

  • Jun 22, 2022
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    HOW WAS A REALITY TV STAR A BETTER POLITICIAN THAN THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT this country is f***ed the dems are gonna get obliterated in the midterms and the republicans are out for blood