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  • May 1, 2022
    SBMike

    Cigarettes one of the most confusing things to me. What is their purpose besides killing you and addiction?

    At least with alcohol I can get tipsy and have a fun night.

    If u dont smoke cigs often that nicotine high is nice af tbh

  • May 1, 2022
    TorturedSonic
    https://twitter.com/ap/status/1519741654730694658

    Nah f*** that, they ain’t taking my blue dreams

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    krishna bound

    its funny because flavored vapes are still legit everywhere, banning them only made the situation 100x worse. Now 50-60% of place sell actually dangerous bootlegged disposables which contain ACTUAL dangerous chemicals. Disposables are EVEN MORE accessible than they were a few years ago but the majority aren't real. The only thing which basically doesn't exist is juul pods, but given disposables are not only cheaper but easier to find the FDA made the problem far worse than it ever should have been.

    Sounds like bootleggers and sellers made it worse not the FDA

  • Ooo

    Why? If people want to smoke let them.

    No one is stopping them from smoking, these are just menthols

  • Damn y'all slow af. Been banned for a while in tha uk

    normal cigs superior anyways

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    We Didnt Like That

    Sounds like bootleggers and sellers made it worse not the FDA

    FDA should have focused on bootleggers and fakes to begin with - they did a half assed job at regulation without thinking about anything or doing any real research. What happened is they banned basically the only legitimate sellers from the market without any further regulation, so they essentially booted the safest form (by a long shot) of flavored vapes from the market, allowed a ton of fake actually dangerous ones to flood in, then have done nothing since because they realized they have no idea how to actually handle regulating fakes. So now 80% of the market is incredibly dangerous as opposed to maybe 10% before the ban.

  • May 1, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    What?

    Communism is when no vapes

  • May 1, 2022
    krishna bound

    Communism is when no vapes

    Disgusting bourgeois anticommunist propaganda

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    krishna bound

    FDA should have focused on bootleggers and fakes to begin with - they did a half assed job at regulation without thinking about anything or doing any real research. What happened is they banned basically the only legitimate sellers from the market without any further regulation, so they essentially booted the safest form (by a long shot) of flavored vapes from the market, allowed a ton of fake actually dangerous ones to flood in, then have done nothing since because they realized they have no idea how to actually handle regulating fakes. So now 80% of the market is incredibly dangerous as opposed to maybe 10% before the ban.

    Thanks I didn't know any of this I don't pay attention to all cigarettes and vaping news but I think the ban was necessary because these companies use flavors to target minors. Humans are most vulnerable addiction when we start smoking young but I did notice after the ban nothing seems to change. These bootleggers got to go before gen z gets worse

  • May 1, 2022
    We Didnt Like That

    Thanks I didn't know any of this I don't pay attention to all cigarettes and vaping news but I think the ban was necessary because these companies use flavors to target minors. Humans are most vulnerable addiction when we start smoking young but I did notice after the ban nothing seems to change. These bootleggers got to go before gen z gets worse

    I think the merits of the ban are debatable, but I don't think it makes sense that they banned the most regulated and arguably safest alternative. They basically just punished the company for being the biggest within the market rather than the most dangerous.
    While it would have made them a monopoly sure, they basically already are (as is the tobacoo industry as a whole), so it would have been way more productive to ban disposables (which are overwhelmingly fake/bootlegged yet widely available - there's a 7/11 near me legit selling bootleg disposable vapes), and then let pods exist.
    At least with pods you need a separate actual juul (or pen) to use them, which is also simultaneously harder for kids to get their hands on than disposables where they're like $15 ready to go cancer sticks

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    Scratchin Mamba

    What?

    Just another reason the thought police can come to your house uninvited, kill your dog, then kill you.

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    Good. Ban alcohol next

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    BlackOlympian

    Just another reason the thought police can come to your house uninvited, kill your dog, then kill you.

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    Scratchin Mamba

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    BlackOlympian

    You're right, the first thing Lenin did when the Bolsheviks came to power was ban vapes I read that on reddit once as well

  • May 1, 2022
    Jihyo

    Good. Ban alcohol next

    Too much old (white) money tied into it for it to disappear

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    Scratchin Mamba

    You're right, the first thing Lenin did when the Bolsheviks came to power was ban vapes I read that on reddit once as well

    Idk what the f*** you talking about.

    Seriously, In the conception of America 🇺🇸 banning things has never once worked.

    The Government Bans - The Citizens Bootleg - The Government Kills & Jails - The Citizens Revolt - The Government Unbans ♻️

    This is nothing more than over reach for another stem on the war on d****.

    Your not from the US so you probably don’t know what I mean.

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    dundis

    Cigarettes are honestly a good bartering tool, having some around for a rainy day wouldn’t hurt.

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    BlackOlympian

    Idk what the f*** you talking about.

    Seriously, In the conception of America 🇺🇸 banning things has never once worked.

    The Government Bans - The Citizens Bootleg - The Government Kills & Jails - The Citizens Revolt - The Government Unbans ♻️

    This is nothing more than over reach for another stem on the war on d****.

    Your not from the US so you probably don’t know what I mean.

    I'm saying you have no idea about communism and banning vapes has nothing to do with communism lol

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    BlackOlympian

    Cigarettes are honestly a good bartering tool, having some around for a rainy day wouldn’t hurt.

    i keep cartons on cartons of cigs in the fridge im running low tho cause I buy my cigs from japan and they've stopped air mail since the war in ukraine broke out

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    Scratchin Mamba

    I'm saying you have no idea about communism and banning vapes has nothing to do with communism lol

    I never mentioned vapes.. the other dude you was talking to did

  • May 1, 2022

    Tbh smoking just needs to be banned lifelong smokers are a burden on the medical system.

  • May 1, 2022
    dundis

    i keep cartons on cartons of cigs in the fridge im running low tho cause I buy my cigs from japan and they've stopped air mail since the war in ukraine broke out

    Japanese cigs… I never though of that.

  • proper 🔩
    May 1, 2022

    man they should be banning palm oil instead