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  • Mar 19, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    see now I am learning something that is useful information. Before this thread I thought no insurance really covered it so it was viewed as direct profit markets or a booming market to them

    Wait till you find out that insurance is also a booming profit market

  • Mar 19, 2023
    SonyATV

    https://transhealthproject.org/resources/health-insurance-medical-policies/views/

    so looking at these and what states require of them for coverage . Making this accessible. Easy to understand and to not put someone transitioning into massive debt that they often tackle on their own sometimes if parents dont fully support is what interest me. Especially when we look at the trans homelessness rate. Like how do we improve the overall trans experience. So thanks

  • Mar 19, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    I thought this was generally true but helps to fully know . By this logic is it possible some whether they non binary or trans in a sense as in they feel they are their in proper gender but never transition? Either because they cant afford to , social stigma, too late in life past puberty blockers or dont feel need to?

    it can be all of those things to be honest.

    tbh transitioning is only ever really “complete” when the person feels comfortable. transitioning for some people can just be wearing clothes that alleviate dysphoria, while for others it can be the whole nine yards (surgery, voice training, hormones etc etc)

    transitioning doesn’t have to fit into a box, its all just a process to reaching a state of contentness with yourself (contentness is not a word lmao)

    lmk if u have any other questions 🙂

  • Deletedd

    very few people have the privilege/come from families that will be okay with their teenager transitioning tbh

    its such a minute issue overblown to be served as fear mongering on a platter to paranoid republicans

    once you put it under the guise of “protecting the children”, you get to start planting the seeds of general transphobia across the board

    once you start “protecting the kids” its really, really easy to attack the trans community as a whole. as we are seeing right now

    I agree with this

  • Nort 💫
    Mar 19, 2023
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    anyways, this is fascism.

  • Mar 19, 2023
    space face

    Wait till you find out that insurance is also a booming profit market

    well no s*** but a booming market that doesn't cover gender reassignment surgery is something that would need to make progress. Because trans people and parents cant magically always afford it but their entire life would change if they didn't get the surgery or possibly end early

  • Mar 19, 2023
    Deletedd

    it can be all of those things to be honest.

    tbh transitioning is only ever really “complete” when the person feels comfortable. transitioning for some people can just be wearing clothes that alleviate dysphoria, while for others it can be the whole nine yards (surgery, voice training, hormones etc etc)

    transitioning doesn’t have to fit into a box, its all just a process to reaching a state of contentness with yourself (contentness is not a word lmao)

    lmk if u have any other questions 🙂

    oh thanks you helped me learn a lot. I wish kids and teens were gotten into therapy earlier. This applies to all kids and teens. That way they could feel comfortable expressing things and processing things. Maybe perhaps then society would believe in them more who knows. Society should obviously believe in them and give them free will either way. We live in a sick society that often wants to control others than focus on themselves. Control their kids , kids kids and others kids out of irrational fear of change.

  • Mar 19, 2023
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    @ShintaroKago I’m asking this in the nicest way possible. Are you off something tonight? You’re usually much less flight of ideas.

  • Mar 19, 2023
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    Chapo you been on a roll today

  • Mar 19, 2023

    I hate DeSantis so f***ing much

  • Mar 19, 2023
    Water Giver

    F*** DeSantis and everything hes done

  • Mar 19, 2023
    Nort

    anyways, this is fascism.

  • Mar 19, 2023
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    space face

    @ShintaroKago I’m asking this in the nicest way possible. Are you off something tonight? You’re usually much less flight of ideas.

    you literally responded to me with some sarcastic bullshit of "wait til you figure out insurance is a booming market" . Which duh it is but I was wondering if gender reassignment surgery was covered which I feel it should be. People can get health care with their jobs in some situations if they pay for it which would cover their children which is why I asked. If all gender reassignment was out of pocket that raises issues.

    nah I am off water. I just always wanted to ask these questions in the best most respectful way possible. Of course I can come in this thread and simply say "this is bad" but I wanted to learn more so I asked. I could of course google cost of gender reassignment surgery or how insurance covers it but wanted to ask , learn and see if its something that can be improved

  • Mar 19, 2023
    Prosper

    Chapo you been on a roll today

    I learned a lot by asking questions . Obviously desantis bad, florida ignorant but I had questions and know trans people exist here so figured I would directly ask who would know best then listen . Its better than google to understand

  • Mar 19, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    Gender itself is a social construct so the idea of the rush to change the assignment of gender before puberty kicks in is what baffles some people. I am trying to say this in the best way possible as someone who leans more non binary . I definitely see both sides, but when it comes to male, female, non binary or trans . Kids often aren't thinking about that when growing up too much before 18. To some degrees yes but mainly things we learned through social construct what we are told. Would be interesting to see how people less ingrained with our level of culture view gender . We are more bombarded with ideas of gender now.

    To be clear at the end of the day whatever makes someone happy and mentally healthy I am all for. So if someone wants to transition I am 100% for it. I feel in cases like this . These are things I personally think of so I am asking because perhaps someone here knows better than I or can help me better understand why this is majorly destructive

    @Prosper

  • Mar 19, 2023
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    I’m actually not against the surgery being disapproved for children but i don’t like how republicans want government out of everything then the second they want something they use government to ban or help things they like. If you want true freedom people should be allowed to do the surgery if they can afford it

  • Mar 19, 2023

    can’t wait to move outta this state man, dude is scum

  • Mar 19, 2023
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    Gangstalicious

    I’m actually not against the surgery being disapproved for children but i don’t like how republicans want government out of everything then the second they want something they use government to ban or help things they like. If you want true freedom people should be allowed to do the surgery if they can afford it

    I am going even farther and saying help them afford it. Why should capital decide whether someone can go through with such a life affirming surgery?

  • Mar 19, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    @Prosper

    I just saw you and other users throwing long ass posts back and forth to each other. I'm staying uninvolved

  • Prosper

    I just saw you and other users throwing long ass posts back and forth to each other. I'm staying uninvolved

    lol I always type paragraphs. I feel if I type too short I can be misunderstood especially on such a delicate topic that deserves care. No where in those paragraphs are we insulting each other or being rude I feel. You know I just type long form. That way people can't misconstrue something as they often due on here or they try to pick one sentence out of context and act like its the entire point. Its all chill in here

    Desantis is bad

    Florida is ignorant

  • TsunamiPapi

    Great 👍🏻

    Glad they got this person out of here cause what do you really gain from this

  • bMass28 🤰🏻
    Mar 19, 2023
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    Nort

    ima be honest chief: the adhd meds have worn off, its 11pm, and im sipping wine. i dont know if i have this conversation in me right now.

    Do the meds effect the d*** game, I pray not my friend.

  • Mar 19, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    Gender itself is a social construct so the idea of the rush to change the assignment of gender before puberty kicks in is what baffles some people. I am trying to say this in the best way possible as someone who leans more non binary . I definitely see both sides, but when it comes to male, female, non binary or trans . Kids often aren't thinking about that when growing up too much before 18. To some degrees yes but mainly things we learned through social construct what we are told. Would be interesting to see how people less ingrained with our level of culture view gender . We are more bombarded with ideas of gender now.

    To be clear at the end of the day whatever makes someone happy and mentally healthy I am all for. So if someone wants to transition I am 100% for it. I feel in cases like this . These are things I personally think of so I am asking because perhaps someone here knows better than I or can help me better understand why this is majorly destructive

    as someone who admittedly self identifies as cisgender i don't think you get to make authoritative claims on if transgender kids think about gender before 18

  • Mar 19, 2023
    blonded

    as someone who admittedly self identifies as cisgender i don't think you get to make authoritative claims on if transgender kids think about gender before 18

    When I said kids I didn't try to mean it in a dismissive way to transgender kids. I more meant kids in general which would largely include cisgender kids. Obviously its on the minds of transgender and non binary kids more or those that are more on the fence. I do see the sentence before could connect in an odd way making it sound like trans kids haven't put thought into it.

    Its a poorly construed sentence there. If someone decides to go through with gender reassignment surgery as I try to make clear at the end of that post I am all for it and I know a lot of thought went into that process.

    Also identify as Non Binary but thats irrelevant. I partially mention it because identity wise I didn't more come into the idea of being non binary myself until after 18 I would say or didn't even know about all the possibilities at my time of growing up

  • Mar 19, 2023
    bMass28

    Do the meds effect the d*** game, I pray not my friend.

    Crine

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