black people don't trust doctors either though

i def understand why lots of black people dont trust doctors. a lot of asian people (most first gen immigrants) ironically actually dont trust doctors as well but its not talked about much. im not really calling them out on that but fixating on relative %s of a profession doesn't push any conversation forward

no one is arguing that race relations aren't fractured within the US (or west as a whole). this is universally true of course. but trying to turn this into "it's pretty terrible to say black people are wrong to feel that way" and then "that way" is like, saying wild s*** half of which isn't trust anyway about an entire other ethnicity is kind of f***ed up

if you just want to argue "there is historical tension between black people and (other ethnicity) and you still see glimmers of this tension now because black people still face historical systematic problems" no one is going to argue with you or disagree

Like black people don't trust anyone that doesn't look like them in many major professions of control. Especially when it comes to their lives so Lawyers, Doctors, Judges, Police, politicians. The list goes on then Post Obama era it was shown even though he a black president could he really work in black interest (drinking flint michigan water). Like the Richard Pryor quote of when black people rise to power what do they become.

The issue here is yes I know the stereotype of jewish people not being viewed as trust worthy but in many cases it isn't about them being Jewish so much as not being black . At the end of the day if another human is focused on profit and you can't help them profit or they fear getting sued what bonds can be made.

Ye list Scooter Braun, His personal trainer, his contract writers all of these people and he is trying to draw a theory rather than just "these humans don't care about me". When its really these humans don't care about his well being.

well you didnt have to bring up the number of jewish lawyers and claim you read this statistic up from reputable at all, it's not nit-picking your argument to qupte your own contentions back at you and frankly you are the one projecting intent on me

i dont think you dont have a point, that's actually exactly why i dont want you to randomly cite totally bullshit statistics because it objectively makes your argument less strong and warps the effectiveness of a potential dialogue

lol I have said that though and people think that is some sort of defense of Ye. S*** black people get mad at Asian beauty supply shops as taking their money and not reinvesting in the community. Black people have a deep distrust of other communities. At times our only sense of unity feels like a head nod when we are outside. While wondering how we will advance in a discernible way

ima need to try jewish p**** first

i mean that's an interesting question

if Black people (or any ethnic group) can't progress in systems where people don't look like them, is pluralism and multiculturalism possible or desirable?

@GeraldJohanssen you're right that Black people have specific ethnic grievances against, well, many different ethnic groups that stretch back quite long into American history. but what could make Black people feel whole and secure in the wake of the racist Asian beauty supplies, the usurious Jewish landlords, the Mexican gangs shooting any Black person who enters their neighhorhood? is there a way for us to all get along like Rodney King wanted?

If your making an argument the burden is you to provide proof

"Look it up yourself" is a cop out and weakens any point you want to make

The better or the root question is if you believe and know that black people can be just as smart as all these other groups why are we not in those positions more often? Is it finances of college? Admissions? Lack of interest? If people believe any group be them Jewish, White, Asian have systematic control over their day to day lives and our their oppressor how do they call them out properly without coming across as hatred

I mean the response to generational oppression is rightfully outrage, so obviously even things like presenting (exaggerated) statistics will probably be outrageous.

There’s no reason really to expect sound logic on the side of the oppressed when the actions of the oppressors themself defy logic and basic human decency.

To his point I think that very often black folks outrage becomes an accepted negative characteristic instead of a talking point for future discussion.

It’s “wow those people sure do yell a lot, I hate it”, instead of “why are those people yelling? what are they trying to say?”

You said that “reputable sources” say up to 80% of judges are Jewish

This can be proven empirically one way or the other, so if a “reputable source” is claiming this it should be pretty easy for you to show us this source

How would you even get data on Jewish people. Its not something that job would know.