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  • May 29, 2020
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    The fans that get loud are a vocal minority, haters...and reddit.

    Im sure most share your opinion.

  • May 29, 2020
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    I don't blame him he probably doesn't have to work another day in his life. I estimate him to be making at least 40k after tax off royalties, and thats a modest estimate. I would be sitting on my ass too

  • Jun 2, 2020
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    the reds

    I don't blame him he probably doesn't have to work another day in his life. I estimate him to be making at least 40k after tax off royalties, and thats a modest estimate. I would be sitting on my ass too

    40k off of the vinyls? or what?

  • Jun 2, 2020
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    zxrunner

    40k off of the vinyls? or what?

    Monthly streaming royalties

  • Jun 2, 2020
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    I think frank’s issue is he doesn’t have a proper team around him.

    Vegyn does his own music, Roof Access does band stuff, does he even have management?

    As it’s been stated before if he had a team he could be doing great things. But I think his music is done tbh

  • Jun 3, 2020
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    Bushmanate

    I think frank’s issue is he doesn’t have a proper team around him.

    Vegyn does his own music, Roof Access does band stuff, does he even have management?

    As it’s been stated before if he had a team he could be doing great things. But I think his music is done tbh

    What? If anything, those guys you mentioned prioritize Frank before anything..

    He had a very solid team with Om’Mas Keith, Malay, Mike Uzi & Jeff Ellis. Had some problems with Keith, Malay (rumoured)

    He’s just shifting right now, seems to be working with a new crew. The entire MIA thing is on purpose, when he’s ready it’ll be fire once again.

  • Jun 3, 2020

    I want to f***ing beat Frank Ocean’s ass.

  • Jun 3, 2020
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    the reds

    Monthly streaming royalties

    You think he gets 40k a month off streams? Or 40k a year? Also, is there a source for this info? I'd love to read up more on it.

  • Jun 3, 2020

    Maybe he shouldnt sell things if he cant get them delivered

  • Jun 4, 2020
    zxrunner

    You think he gets 40k a month off streams? Or 40k a year? Also, is there a source for this info? I'd love to read up more on it.

    Just used a bunch of spotify stats and ran them through spotify royalty rates. And I did say "monthly" lol

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    Jun 4, 2020
    zxrunner

    You think he gets 40k a month off streams? Or 40k a year? Also, is there a source for this info? I'd love to read up more on it.

    its tough to get even close without real streaming numbers but I'll run you through a basic calculation

    as of rn Frank Ocean has 13.8 million monthly listeners. This isn't streams per month this is unique listeners. To lowball we can use this as streams per month on Spotify. Apple streams for rap/hip-hop etc tend to be the same or more than Spotify so we'll double this and just round to 30 million per month - still on the low side given that it doesn't include tidal, GPM, YouTube etc and its only monthly unique listeners it doesn't account for anyone who listens to more than one frank ocean song

    This is a lowball estimate.

    Let's assume Frank is keeping around $0.30 of every dollar - probably on the lower side since he owns his masters but he does have to pay producers and etc. Generally you can say that 1500 streams are equal to around $10 so in this case $3 for frank for every 1500 streams.

    30,000,000/1500=20,000

    20000*3= $60,000 per month

    that's on the low side of what it likely is

    so yea hes doing fine lmao

  • Jun 4, 2020
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    frank 2022

    But at the same time get pissed when he doesn’t release music. As if Frank’s independence meant anything except that he doesn’t ever have to make music again if he doesnt want to.

    And at the same time are astonished that he couldn’t get products manufactured and distributed in a timely manner as if that’s an easy thing to accomplish without a label.

    I don’t think people realize that if they want frank to release albums every 2 years and get their vinyl’s shipped right on time, they don’t really want frank to be independent.

    Personally, i think frank is one of the greatest artists out right now. Hes earned the privilege to not only take as much time as he wants to make his art, but also have a little more room for error as he figures out the best way to operate on the business side.

    Bro we weren’t “astonished” just because his vinyl delivery wasn’t quick. He told us 8 weeks and is ending up taking over 8 months.

    Some of y’all quick to build your own little narrative.

  • Jun 4, 2020
    Campari

    What? If anything, those guys you mentioned prioritize Frank before anything..

    He had a very solid team with Om’Mas Keith, Malay, Mike Uzi & Jeff Ellis. Had some problems with Keith, Malay (rumoured)

    He’s just shifting right now, seems to be working with a new crew. The entire MIA thing is on purpose, when he’s ready it’ll be fire once again.

    yea and plus Mike Uzowuru, Noah Goldstein etc

    and who knows who else he’s been working with since he’s now free to do so with whomever he chooses

  • Jun 4, 2020

    This is a dumb OP. Literally countless indie artists (99% of them with less resources than Frank) manage to release regularly and get all their s***s including vinyls sold and delivered. It’s 2020, not the 60s

  • Jun 4, 2020

    The thing is I don’t think he was happy with the album and the reception of the singles, so he decided to keep working on it. The music isn’t ready. Everything else is fairly easy to handle.

  • Banana 🍌
    Jun 5, 2020

    you don't need a label to press records in 7 months time he's just operating this s*** horribly or intentionally holding them back

  • Jun 5, 2020

    frank is way too big to be “blackballed” He has Apple behind him as well.