Remove the conditions that compell women to do s***work, don't demonize the individual s***workers, they're just trying to make ends meet.
What conditions are those?
What conditions are those?
economic conditions in which somebody feels like the most likely way they'll be able to pay the bills is gettin naked since a large portion of adults probably deal with some type of obsession or addiction to sex/sex related things thats not as healthy as it could be, people are like: "hey theres always a market for that"
which there is.
Most of this thread has never read the work of s***workers.
And why are you all equating s***work to literally selling p****. Where do strippers and cam girls fall in this discussion? Or women selling dirty pics on onlyfans? What about women who test s***toys for a living? That's s***work.
levels to it, of course
economic conditions in which somebody feels like the most likely way they'll be able to pay the bills is gettin naked since a large portion of adults probably deal with some type of obsession or addiction to sex/sex related things thats not as healthy as it could be, people are like: "hey theres always a market for that"
which there is.
S***work predates capitalism though...
At this point, you are all going to have to accept that a chunk of people who partake in this work want to.
They are also selling experiences that people may not be able to get elsewhere. We talk about s***work in the context of women when men that are prostitutes top clientele are women wanting to lose their virginity.
A Domme/Dom (yes, that's s***work too!) is selling something that people can't get in their personal relationships...
That is really not gonna disappear changing their conditions to where they don't feel like they have to do the work. They enjoy it....
S***work predates capitalism though...
At this point, you are all going to have to accept that a chunk of people who partake in this work want to.
They are also selling experiences that people may not be able to get elsewhere. We talk about s***work in the context of women when men that are prostitutes top clientele are women wanting to lose their virginity.
Not disagreeing with you on the first line,
And hey I mean it makes more money than a lot of other jobs would so I see why people would be drawn to it, plus maybe they like expressing them selves in that way
I don’t feel like I’m that opinionated on the topic but rather I came itt (no pun intended) for the hell of it
Not disagreeing with you on the first line,
And hey I mean it makes more money than a lot of other jobs would so I see why people would be drawn to it, plus maybe they like expressing them selves in that way
I don’t feel like I’m that opinionated on the topic but rather I came itt (no pun intended) for the hell of it
I see what you're saying but a lot of people enjoy their job, the idea that everyone in it is doing last resort work isn't really true. S***work also contains a variety of jobs, some seemingly more "respectable" than others for most.
I'm speaking more generally tho not really directed at you.
I see what you're saying but a lot of people enjoy their job, the idea that everyone in it is doing last resort work isn't really true. S***work also contains a variety of jobs, some seemingly more "respectable" than others for most.
I'm speaking more generally tho not really directed at you.
This is true. Feel like most ppl, even myself, hear s***work and often think of prostitutes or women bringing men into hotels despite the fact we know that's not true
but i mean yeah its literally a job, based on fulfilling a desire for the customer i guess
In a free society men and women should def be free to engage in s***work. I think work has to be done in how we view s***workers as a monolith full of a population that needs to be "saved"
In a free society men and women should def be free to engage in s***work. I think work has to be done in how we view s***workers as a monolith full of a population that needs to be "saved"
its just made more complex because of our societies problems with even being able to communicate about sexuality properly
it can be such a major part about a person and yet the world at large i think is so limited in the way it handles most things regarding this
plus i mean religious orgs/groups/governments/traditions that condemn anything but one definition of sexuality hold back progress
We should perhaps look to create a society where ppl dont feel the need to sell their bodies
this is it but how idk
Disclaimer: not trying to judge nor tell anyone how they live their lives. You can remove me from the thread & focus on the topic under discussion. Otherwise, you can suck, f***, snort, sniff, cuddle, kiss or eat WHATEVER DAFUK U WANT
Just saw some dude post that he’s a strong supporter of s***work & it had me wondering what sociological, psychological or evolutionary aspect of s***work that can make it admirable for anyone
First off, cause I know y’all don’t read, THIS DOES NOT COUNT STRUGGLING WOMEN/MEN WHO ARE GRINDING FOR BASIC NECESSITIES OR THEIT CHILDRENS WELLBEING. That can be perceived as a form of altruism/self-sacrifice that warrants some kind of respect imo. This thread is purely made in response to the phenomenon of middle/upper-middle class ppl getting caught up in virtual or real s***work. If you are an anomaly with a statistically well above-avg s***drive, this doesn’t concern you either.
To be honest, from an evolutionary perspective male promiscuity is typically heraldsd because of the premise that female promiscuity needs to be selective. A man wants to spread the seed as much as possible while a woman needs to nurture this seed & thus find an ideal partner that would facilitate the process. So from an evolutionary perspective, you get no brownie points f***ing everybody who throws a dollar at you as a woman. Contradtingly, for men there might be some merit because it’s much harder for men to actual become s***workers because of the evolutionary selectivity of women. You have to atleast be top 10 percentile to qualify. Anecdotally, I can tell u I’ve come across a whole bunch of beat up strippers/hookers so that standard doesn’t real hold inter-gender-wise
From a sociological perspective, you don’t really get much brownie points either cause a female s***worker doesn’t even have to be good at s***per se. Most dudes would be glad just to f*** let alone get with someone who actually knows what their doing. So it’s not like you are spending hours at the gym Kegeling or improving your flexibility to warrant being given praise for your perseverance or hard work. Even d*** dealing requires some logistical know-how’s & you can even argue pumping needs some form of human resource management. S***work doesn’t neccesarily need any of that, esp on an amateur level. In fact, given that s***work has been so sociologically stigmatized, you’d expect most ppl would be conditioned to condemn it rather praise it because of collective consciousness. Unless you are a contrarian (as the case of many leftists, UNDERSTANDABLY) which makes u an idiot & ur response to this thread is really not needed cause it adds minimal value
SO, taking all this into consideration why would anyone become a supporter of s***work for the middle-class strata.
Imma keep it 100 with you it don’t really matter why, nobody asks why would anybody ever wanna be a butcher or a construction worker even tho both those jobs don’t really gain you anything besides a paycheck, people should just have the freedom to do whatever they choose to safely
its just made more complex because of our societies problems with even being able to communicate about sexuality properly
it can be such a major part about a person and yet the world at large i think is so limited in the way it handles most things regarding this
There's some great reads on human sexual repression and how that structures societies.
In a free society men and women should def be free to engage in s***work. I think work has to be done in how we view s***workers as a monolith full of a population that needs to be "saved"
And this isn't to say people in s***work currently aren't still being exploited even though it's consensual.
A big topic when it comes to p***ography.
And this isn't to say people in s***work currently aren't still being exploited even though it's consensual.
A big topic when it comes to p***ography.
Yeah I think that's where my main thing about removing conditions that lead to it comes from. But thinking about it I think my opposition is mainly towards the conditions within s***work that can lead it to be exploitative as well as the commodification of the human body not by the individual engaging in the s***work but by the exploiters
But even when talking about conditions that lead to it can be a bit problematic because again it leads us to believe that s***workers as a whole have no agency
As a fan of boxing and a supporter of s***workers, I think both would diminish in my ideal vision of society. I don't think they're morally corrupt. I just think economic pressures funnel people into them. I don't think the people taking part are to blame. The material conditions rule supreme.
If I'm questioning societal merit, I've got bigger fish to fry than OnlyFans.
I mean at this point if you don’t see how p*** is damaging idk what to tell u.
P*** contributes to s***trafficking, abuse of women, erectile dysfunction and lower testosterone, damages your reward system, etc.
And that’s just for adults. Imagine what it does to young kids/teens who view it
P*** is like heroin for your hormones people don't realize that. That s*** is an estranged emulation of what real intimacy is
Let people do what they want with their bodies i really dont give a f***
im not gonna bang a hooker or cop a girls onlyfans but if brodie down the street wants to, by all means he should be able to
Why are you guys on here so obsessed with s***workers and onlyfans girls do you really believe your future wife or future would-be wife is out there hoeing or something? Do you believe more and more girls turning to online s***work are gonna make it harder for you to find “acceptable and moral” girls for you to take as wives??? Men’s fixation on demonizing p***/onlyfans here and everywhere on the internet is sooo weird. Talking about how does it contribute to society? How do video game streamers contribute to society??
There is none
This is problem the left has, always tryna moralize the individual
I support legalization of s***work because the govt can not or should not be infringing on people’s right to do whatever they want as long is harms no one
But does that mean i respect or think s***workers are empowering, role models or put together people? F*** no lmaoo