saint dot edumist

1y

just gonna repost

nah it’s not a good use of money, and pretty futile really

well no, because it’s pretty functionally useless

now this, is where i can really get into the swing of what i wanna say, yes, there’s been a very large decrease of religious people and this is primarily due to individualism, materialism and albeit i know people don’t like it when i take a s*** on science—scientism, all of these things coalesce and play with one another to effectively reduce religion’s role and purpose within the world, it’s essentially why a lot of people tell others that you have to make your own meaning in life, that there’s no intrinsic value to our existence and we live within a cold and uncaring universe

it’s a moorish mix of secular hubris and philosophical ignorance (i mean, what use is philosophy if science, or scientists rather proclaim to have the answers for each question?) many of the reasons ive seen people reject religion and/or God are for very poor and unsophisticated understandings of religion(s) and God generally, a lot of the gripes and questions people have with religion could possibly be rectified if they bothered to engage with it beyond a surface level, however why do that, when the idea of man being the only ends or measure completely void of any sort of higher power to pay heed to is immensely more attractive to people who are raised in a “me-me-me” society?

there’s a reason why most of the spirituality that people take interest in America is pop astrology, manifestation, crystals, Westernized (bastardized, really) Buddhism etc. because they either offer a benefit to the person that partakes in the practice exclusively or they’re completely null of anything that would have someone feel accountable spiritually for the things that they do to other people, Buddhism within the West has been essentially leveled to mindfulness and be nice to others, completely absent of the various metaphysical principles, realms and supernatural beliefs that are essential to it as a religion regardless (such as anatta, sunyata, indra’s net etc.) religion was always generally collectivist and was about forming unity with your fellow man, this is pretty much gone

i am not surprised at Christians being oppressed and sort of trampled on nowadays because the pendulum is simply swinging back, this is essentially retribution for all of the crusades and oppression that happened in the name of the Abrahamic God, Christians definitely have an absolutely horrible reputation (borderline irreparable if you ask me) due to the evangelists, making people feel bad for their sexuality (which could possibly be based on a misinterpretation of the Bible lol) and forcing Christianity and all down people's throats, this isn't even getting into the general intolerance of other religions that people of Abrahamic faiths have either, which is an entirely different mess within itself—as an aside, as a pretty spiritually minded person i do genuinely feel marginalized and/or in a world that’s hostile to any sort of spirituality

regardless, this is all in line with the Kali Yuga, the irreligious will continue to spread and the sacred will continue to be lost to a select few/die out until eventually some sort of supernatural cataclysm comes through and resets the world at large-it's certainly going to be awhile so im pretty nihilistically bitter at watching religion fade out, but it is what it is really

americana

1y

Aight

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

1y

Bro said aight

Raiden

1y

"promoting Jesus"

saint dot edumist

1y

just gonna repost

nah it’s not a good use of money, and pretty futile really

well no, because it’s pretty functionally useless

now this, is where i can really get into the swing of what i wanna say, yes, there’s been a very large decrease of religious people and this is primarily due to individualism, materialism and albeit i know people don’t like it when i take a s*** on science—scientism, all of these things coalesce and play with one another to effectively reduce religion’s role and purpose within the world, it’s essentially why a lot of people tell others that you have to make your own meaning in life, that there’s no intrinsic value to our existence and we live within a cold and uncaring universe

it’s a moorish mix of secular hubris and philosophical ignorance (i mean, what use is philosophy if science, or scientists rather proclaim to have the answers for each question?) many of the reasons ive seen people reject religion and/or God are for very poor and unsophisticated understandings of religion(s) and God generally, a lot of the gripes and questions people have with religion could possibly be rectified if they bothered to engage with it beyond a surface level, however why do that, when the idea of man being the only ends or measure completely void of any sort of higher power to pay heed to is immensely more attractive to people who are raised in a “me-me-me” society?

there’s a reason why most of the spirituality that people take interest in America is pop astrology, manifestation, crystals, Westernized (bastardized, really) Buddhism etc. because they either offer a benefit to the person that partakes in the practice exclusively or they’re completely null of anything that would have someone feel accountable spiritually for the things that they do to other people, Buddhism within the West has been essentially leveled to mindfulness and be nice to others, completely absent of the various metaphysical principles, realms and supernatural beliefs that are essential to it as a religion regardless (such as anatta, sunyata, indra’s net etc.) religion was always generally collectivist and was about forming unity with your fellow man, this is pretty much gone

i am not surprised at Christians being oppressed and sort of trampled on nowadays because the pendulum is simply swinging back, this is essentially retribution for all of the crusades and oppression that happened in the name of the Abrahamic God, Christians definitely have an absolutely horrible reputation (borderline irreparable if you ask me) due to the evangelists, making people feel bad for their sexuality (which could possibly be based on a misinterpretation of the Bible lol) and forcing Christianity and all down people's throats, this isn't even getting into the general intolerance of other religions that people of Abrahamic faiths have either, which is an entirely different mess within itself—as an aside, as a pretty spiritually minded person i do genuinely feel marginalized and/or in a world that’s hostile to any sort of spirituality

regardless, this is all in line with the Kali Yuga, the irreligious will continue to spread and the sacred will continue to be lost to a select few/die out until eventually some sort of supernatural cataclysm comes through and resets the world at large-it's certainly going to be awhile so im pretty nihilistically bitter at watching religion fade out, but it is what it is really

insertcoolnamehere

1y

shoutout to the religions that leave room for G-d to be any manifestations/gender you want them to be and not some diesel ass white man that clearly has anger management issues and suffers from a major case of pocket/penis watching.

In Ifa, G-d comes in many names that each could be masculine or feminine

which makes sense. How can someone be the creator of everything and nothing and somehow you're able to commodify them in one 3 letter word?

Sounds like King James pulled a fast one.

insertcoolnamehere

1y

have you ever stopped to consider while you consistently make posts that s*** on things like science that you might be part of the problem with "why spiritual people feel marginalized?"

cause as a fellow spiritual person (ifa) I never felt this "marginalization" that you speak of, but also I don't use every waking moment to s*** on others for their "lack of spirituality" like you have a tendency to do.

You bring up Christianity like that's the only religion that has an issue with homosexuality, explain why many Middle Eastern countries that practice Islam aren't on the top 5 destinations of many LGTBQIA+ people that wanna travel?

saint dot edumist

1y

no… the marginalization is because scientism and materialism is the new zeitgeist and is taken as the a priori default (common sense) position both philosophically and even casual PHIL101, it’s completely null of any actual critical thinking, i s*** on science only when it presents itself, versus in thin air believe it or not, Guenon literally was already critiquing the materially oriented West back in like the 20s or so iirc, as time progressed he was just proved right

well good for you, im gonna continue to s*** on these pseudo-intellectual fedora atheists i have yet to meet one on this site that has an actual nuanced critique on theology and/or God at large

i haven’t studied Islam in-depth enough, but i wouldn’t be surprised if their texts and tenets are twisted to condemn things like homosexuality and/or justify misogyny, regardless, if im wrong on that front, it’s pretty annoying to see people conflate Islam with “well religion at large is bad and harmful “ which is where a good bit of my vitriol stems from

JohnCena

1y

religion is truly the greatest. Nice thing to see

insertcoolnamehere

1y

sounds like a lot of time wasted on bein mad dawg.

"well religion at large is bad and harmful" I mean you yourself admitted certain religions was responsible for a lot of bloodshed sooooooooo it is harmful lol.

And also as a black man, I'm just never gonna sit well with Christianity and it's indoctrination on black people throughout history soooo

saint dot edumist

1y

no… the marginalization is because scientism and materialism is the new zeitgeist and is taken as the a priori default (common sense) position both philosophically and even casual PHIL101, it’s completely null of any actual critical thinking, i s*** on science only when it presents itself, versus in thin air believe it or not, Guenon literally was already critiquing the materially oriented West back in like the 20s or so iirc, as time progressed he was just proved right

well good for you, im gonna continue to s*** on these pseudo-intellectual fedora atheists i have yet to meet one on this site that has an actual nuanced critique on theology and/or God at large

i haven’t studied Islam in-depth enough, but i wouldn’t be surprised if their texts and tenets are twisted to condemn things like homosexuality and/or justify misogyny, regardless, if im wrong on that front, it’s pretty annoying to see people conflate Islam with “well religion at large is bad and harmful “ which is where a good bit of my vitriol stems from

saint dot edumist

1y

yeah… except atheistic regimes throughout history cough cough communism cough cough the holocaust were responsible for more death than just about any religion you could think of

i don’t twist that and say “well atheists are bloodthirsty amoral murderers” albeit i think your average one is pretty dumb as s***

009

1y

Christianity gotta be the most predatory scam in the U.S only second to insurance.

The StepFather

1y

You not wrong. I read through them long ass posts, and respectfully that first one could've been condensed to say niggas don't understand what they can't perceive

But yeah, essentially the sciences have been stripped and we've been given one "true science" to base our reality. Instead of the laws that bind us to this universe

But them christians got BODIES and 501-3c's. Like they dwarf the result of Germany's Holocaust

saint dot edumist

1y

just gonna repost

nah it’s not a good use of money, and pretty futile really

well no, because it’s pretty functionally useless

now this, is where i can really get into the swing of what i wanna say, yes, there’s been a very large decrease of religious people and this is primarily due to individualism, materialism and albeit i know people don’t like it when i take a s*** on science—scientism, all of these things coalesce and play with one another to effectively reduce religion’s role and purpose within the world, it’s essentially why a lot of people tell others that you have to make your own meaning in life, that there’s no intrinsic value to our existence and we live within a cold and uncaring universe

it’s a moorish mix of secular hubris and philosophical ignorance (i mean, what use is philosophy if science, or scientists rather proclaim to have the answers for each question?) many of the reasons ive seen people reject religion and/or God are for very poor and unsophisticated understandings of religion(s) and God generally, a lot of the gripes and questions people have with religion could possibly be rectified if they bothered to engage with it beyond a surface level, however why do that, when the idea of man being the only ends or measure completely void of any sort of higher power to pay heed to is immensely more attractive to people who are raised in a “me-me-me” society?

there’s a reason why most of the spirituality that people take interest in America is pop astrology, manifestation, crystals, Westernized (bastardized, really) Buddhism etc. because they either offer a benefit to the person that partakes in the practice exclusively or they’re completely null of anything that would have someone feel accountable spiritually for the things that they do to other people, Buddhism within the West has been essentially leveled to mindfulness and be nice to others, completely absent of the various metaphysical principles, realms and supernatural beliefs that are essential to it as a religion regardless (such as anatta, sunyata, indra’s net etc.) religion was always generally collectivist and was about forming unity with your fellow man, this is pretty much gone

i am not surprised at Christians being oppressed and sort of trampled on nowadays because the pendulum is simply swinging back, this is essentially retribution for all of the crusades and oppression that happened in the name of the Abrahamic God, Christians definitely have an absolutely horrible reputation (borderline irreparable if you ask me) due to the evangelists, making people feel bad for their sexuality (which could possibly be based on a misinterpretation of the Bible lol) and forcing Christianity and all down people's throats, this isn't even getting into the general intolerance of other religions that people of Abrahamic faiths have either, which is an entirely different mess within itself—as an aside, as a pretty spiritually minded person i do genuinely feel marginalized and/or in a world that’s hostile to any sort of spirituality

regardless, this is all in line with the Kali Yuga, the irreligious will continue to spread and the sacred will continue to be lost to a select few/die out until eventually some sort of supernatural cataclysm comes through and resets the world at large-it's certainly going to be awhile so im pretty nihilistically bitter at watching religion fade out, but it is what it is really