nah, they’re pretty well correlated, most people who proclaim to be secular or irreligious have a very poor understanding (if any really) of philosophy generally when we’re talking about philosophy of religion, epistemology, ontology etc.
and yeah to an extent, Cartesian dualism and Locke’s conception of a material substratum was pretty unfortunate—because again they’re taken as the common sense position when there are a wealth of critiques against the both of them (namely from German idealists such as a Kant, or hell idealism generally—Berkeley)
I don’t think you read my post right. The second paragraph begins as if you are agreeing w something I never claimed?
all I mean to say is that philosophical discourse is hardly limited to the terrain of religion/faith. Same for discourses on ontology and epistemology. It’s really just a drop in the bucket
I was curious because to be religious is to have faith; you needn't need arguments to support your belief. So every philosopher who tries makes me wonder. It's interesting how we've moved away from higher-order ontological arguments too
I'm Christian too and like Gödel’s ontological argument
yeah philosophy logic reason etc. are nothing but adornments for the religious person which is why i don’t really particularly mind if they don’t have too much philosophical knowledge because belief and faith are pretty antithetical to reason and logic, there was even an ancient movement within Christianity called Quietism, they felt like speaking of God or attempting to discuss it was a disservice to the divine
on the flip side, rejecting God on a logical or rational basis i have issues with it because that’s never how God was supposed to work ya know?
also im not a Christian (although i come from a Christian background) im more of a Hindu than anything, i ascribe to perennialism
not about being right, it’s about actually talking about things constructively with some foreknowledge before you criticize it
most of the arguments presented itt wouldn’t even hold up in a PHIL101 class
You are not talking constructively 😂, but that's ok. It's only my opinion. Yours could be completely opposite
Like I said, I got what I needed to see is all. It'll be ok
I don’t think you read my post right. The second paragraph begins as if you are agreeing w something I never claimed?
all I mean to say is that philosophical discourse is hardly limited to the terrain of religion/faith. Same for discourses on ontology and epistemology. It’s really just a drop in the bucket
i was agreeing with the philosophers that you named in reference to my post, not anything that you claimed, i don’t like Descartes nor Locke, (or Spinoza really, but that’s a topic for another day) hence why i launched into a little diatribe about my gripes with them
sure they’re not limited to religion/faith, but that’s kind of my primary interest so it’s what i primarily commentate on
i was agreeing with the philosophers that you named in reference to my post, not anything that you claimed, i don’t like Descartes nor Locke, (or Spinoza really, but that’s a topic for another day) hence why i launched into a little diatribe about my gripes with them
sure they’re not limited to religion/faith, but that’s kind of my primary interest so it’s what i primarily commentate on
Spinoza hate
That's the exact purpose of the ads. They're made by a group looking to make Jesus more "relatable"
I know, I just think it’s more important to actually say something regarding what Jesus believes in than to make him relatable.
It’s not that big a deal, it’s just not how I would have done it
I know, just funny because sounds like Jesus is some product (even though some might say it is )
I mean he is he hasn't been alive for centuries he's been an idea and product longer then he was alive now.
All religions are businesses on some level it's why they go door to door it's why they invest in politics and its why they brand their symbols.
Jesus is a 100% product
@op they got Super Bowl airtime smh
That one was weird
It almost felt like it was defending racism/homophobia/all the isms