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  • Dec 28, 2023
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    Rock Mudson

    If I edit the post to say art instead, will you come up with a substantive response

    i don’t need to “come up” with a substantive response, i already had one and whether you edit the post or not ill continue to have one. Maybe don’t refer to art or music as f***ing “content” next time like you’re an Amazon PR Slop Specialist.

  • Dec 28, 2023
    voriox

    i don’t need to “come up” with a substantive response, i already had one and whether you edit the post or not ill continue to have one. Maybe don’t refer to art or music as f***ing “content” next time like you’re an Amazon PR Slop Specialist.

    I think a diminutive term is appropriate when OP is asking for art that pairs well with the actual horrors of the world. Children are being slaughtered in Gaza, and I really wish someone would drop a good song about it.

    So yeah, content. Might as well.

  • Dec 28, 2023
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    This may be anecdotal and a product of just what I’ve listened to, but it feels to me like the “serious songs” of today are more about internal struggles. It feels like there’s way more “mainstream” music about depression, suicidal thoughts, internal struggles, mental health in general, etc.

    People talk a lot about “mental health” crisis going on and it feels like people are more concerned with that than they are a lot of world issues. That more individualized message just seems to resonate with people more. At least that’s what I feel like I’m witnessing.

  • Dec 28, 2023
    voriox

    bro unintentionally talking about postmodern philosophy by way of Baudrillard in this post. insightful s***. i do agree with you critiquing the note in OP but im not sure you get some things

    what things don't I get, I don't read or watch any philosophy stuff tbh I'm just riffing

  • Dec 28, 2023
    bigmike0123

    This may be anecdotal and a product of just what I’ve listened to, but it feels to me like the “serious songs” of today are more about internal struggles. It feels like there’s way more “mainstream” music about depression, suicidal thoughts, internal struggles, mental health in general, etc.

    People talk a lot about “mental health” crisis going on and it feels like people are more concerned with that than they are a lot of world issues. That more individualized message just seems to resonate with people more. At least that’s what I feel like I’m witnessing.

    nah you're definitely right. product of the times

  • Veggie 💿
    Dec 28, 2023
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    We should stop looking towards celebrities for social messages or profound activism

  • Dec 28, 2023

    revisiting with slightly clearer thoughts

    People who know what's going are listening to scientists and politicians

    People who do not know what's going on aren't listening to scientists and politicians most likely because they don't care, and therefore aren't concerned with their favorite artists speaking on certain things.

    There is a demand for artists to talk about important stuff but I think framing it as a "sudden huge responsibility" artists have to bear is false

  • everybodys an idiot!

  • Dec 28, 2023
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    Veggie

    We should stop looking towards celebrities for social messages or profound activism

    I think people should stop looking towards celebrities expecting their views to align with theirs, but there’s nothing wrong with artists speaking about the state of the world in the art that they make

  • Dec 28, 2023

    Art is an extension of the culture and the expression/ mirror of the world we live in. If all we care about is money and the acquisition of wealth then expect the music to express that in one way or the other, whether that be in lyrical content or the reason a piece of art was created.

  • Veggie 💿
    Dec 28, 2023
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    shaleirose

    I think people should stop looking towards celebrities expecting their views to align with theirs, but there’s nothing wrong with artists speaking about the state of the world in the art that they make

    While true, I don’t know why anyone would care what a rapper or singer thinks about an issue unless they have a extremely solid and well educated background regarding it

    The social media era has convinced people all opinions are of equal merit, doubly so if they are famous or have a “platform”

    But I agree with you in spirit that a big problem is people expecting a celebrity to align with your core values and lived experience

  • Dec 28, 2023
    Veggie

    While true, I don’t know why anyone would care what a rapper or singer thinks about an issue unless they have a extremely solid and well educated background regarding it

    The social media era has convinced people all opinions are of equal merit, doubly so if they are famous or have a “platform”

    But I agree with you in spirit that a big problem is people expecting a celebrity to align with your core values and lived experience

    I think it comes from celebrity culture as a whole. People put so much faith in a cult of personality because folks want to be represented. they feel powerless in a system designed to make them feel so. They don’t feel represented through their politicians ( which is much more important and the main problem with America and a lot of places) so they look to people with influence that they DO feel represented by. Folks identify with their favorite celebrity for many reasons, sometimes because they identify with certain feelings or shared experiences, a lot of times for the simple fact that they made it. Status.
    Celebrities then take that and milk it for money. Folks sitting there skipping meals to spend 1k on a ticket. screaming and crying after interacting with their favorite celeb for 30 seconds. They need that to make money off of you, folks need something to worship and celebrities need worship in order to make obscene amounts of money off of their fans. Most times that worship is to great benefit until those fans want you to speak out on some important s***.