May 7, 2023·3 repliesNo one could top YEEZUS and that killed the whole genre over the course of the last decade
May 7, 2023
Gay Ave StanAlright, so, um, I'm zoingy-boingy, I'm high. But uh, I've been meaning to go on this rant, m'kay, it's not an angry rant like my Batman rant, okay? As you can see from the picture, I'm chillin', chillin' like a villain, but I'm not the Joker, okay? Let's tie that back to Batman. Anyhow, this is just, I don't know, it's a deep dive, right? But not to get too caught up on the setup. Cause every great story needs one, right? Hahaha. But anyway. So hip-hop is in a decline, okay? I know nobody wants to say it and if you say it, you're out-of-touch, you're any of that... It's on a f***ing decline, okay? It's to the point black people are saying it. You'd have been seen as a c**n or a lame motherfucker if you said that, but now, black people are saying it. Young black people are even saying it, okay? It's bad. And yes, hip-hop has had a quote-unquote "decline"... The genre has had a decline, a big decline that was noticeable in the Shiny Suit Era, right? But hip-hop didn't become lame, right? There was still cool s*** coming out in the shiny suit era - I was even a part of the Shiny Suit Era. Hip-hop is lame right now, and that's worse, y'know? And we were talking about it in the chat last night, where, that... Hip-hop was for a period now, the default music genre around the world for what's cool. And now that hip-hop has become lame, it's given way to other genres to blow up, y'know, and people to give a chance. Um, with country and pop and y'know, some of those rock elements in music, slowly creepin up right now, but internationally as well. That's why you even have a lot of young people - period - listening more to f***in' Burna Boy than somebody like Lil Durk, or... not even Lil Durk, but like, somebody like that, for example. Because those other genres are providing that cool factor. While hip-hop is - for the most part - it's lame right now. And that can't be denied. It's lame, it's negative, it's emotionless, it's humanless. That's what it is overall right now. That is the representation of it. And so, for like Mexico specifically, right? We were talking about this in the chat, it was brought up, how, y'know, Peso Puma and all these guys, they're providing that cool American factor, y'know - with the videos, with the fashion, with the visuals. And they're looking like the cool rappers. While also now, they're making cool music for their own culture. So they're like, "Okay, f*** hip-hop, we're getting the cool stuff that we got from hip-hop, and we're getting our culture authentically, let's go to that". And the whole world. Like we were talking about in the chat. How, y'know, people within Mexican culture that wouldn't even- that would look down on the Mexican regional music, cause they were Mexican-Americans. Now they're even listening to the f***ing Mexican authentic music. Y'know, because that's become the cool thing that's a lot of... Across all these genres, they're all becoming more cool, in the wake of hip-hop becoming lame. And that's a problem. Okay? And we need to - there's no more not acknowledging it. You're not an oldhead. You're not a lame. You're not out-of-touch. It's clear as day. Okay? And I said I wasn't gonna get mad with this one. But, I'm feeling like imma get turnt up. So before that happens, imma slow down, and just leave y'all with that. Happy Friday, or Saturday. For a lot of y'all 'round here, Sunday. SUNDAY FUNDAY!!! Sunday Funday vibes. Alright, we out.
- BRAVEThanks for typing this out, I like reading more than listening to voices podcast style.
I think Brave made some good points, and I think that the source of hip hop not being all it could be right now is the fact that the new generation doesn’t have any superstars or singular acts it can look to.
“The big three” of Drake, Kendrick, and Cole are still “the big three” despite the fact that they all burst out a decade or more ago.
Everyone is just doing little s*** in their own little lane and I hate it.
Tying into that, I feel like if hip hop was still competitive and everyone was still trying to be THE BEST instead of just “good enough” then things would also be better than right now.
I don’t think rap and hip hop will ever fully go away, luckily, but unless some new talent comes through and starts really making waves soon, it might not be the dominant music style for a while… and I would hate that- May 7, 2023·1 reply
DiamondsFloodedrap has been pushed out it’s not necessarily the content or the quality of the artists to blame
What do you think pushed it out? Other genres growing in popularity like afrobeat or Latin music?
- May 7, 2023deleteduser2863
No one could top YEEZUS and that killed the whole genre over the course of the last decade
May 7, 2023Shimmerbut is there a next genre that will take hip hop's place?
would love yall opinions on what that is?
We goin back to rock and ILCK is the medium
May 7, 2023CaunIt died when ye fell of tbh
May 7, 2023·1 replyI moved to other genres for new music tbh
- May 7, 2023
Seeing so many KTT users say they don’t even listen to rap like that anymore is sad.
No judgement, of course, but rap will always be my favorite genre, and it feels like I’m seeing it die in real time
May 7, 2023I still listen to hip hop I just listen to other genres as well
EDM is going hard rn
May 7, 2023·1 replyThank trap
May 7, 2023
aLIENpeople complain about AI then turn around and listen to lil baby
lmaooo
May 7, 2023·1 replyleftearfHip hop is dying because Mexicans listen to Mexican music and burna boy is popular
When you think about it
Hispanic people went to Bad Bunny and white girls went back to pop
And now we have Morgan Wallen running around like he's Pac
That 2016-2019 prop up of hip-hop just not there anymore
May 7, 2023PushaToTheI moved to other genres for new music tbh
May 7, 2023Pretty sure any genre that becomes the most dominant and popular one will eventually hit a downward trend. But that’s good for hip hop cause all the fake fans who were only here to be “cool” will leave
- May 7, 2023·1 reply
Hip hop is so alive y’all just getting old
May 7, 2023·2 replies
Amir KarimThe consumers is the problem. No one wants to listen to a new experimental hip hop artist or something left field. Just give them some street s***
Even then the street s*** won't last that long either, because it'll get super repetitive and boring.
- May 7, 2023Kee
Even then the street s*** won't last that long either, because it'll get super repetitive and boring.
That’s what I’m saying. It’s already played out but it’s easy to digest and easy to creat/replicate
Kinda reminds me of the ringtone/snap era.
- May 7, 2023
I’m not listening to ktt podcasts lol
May 7, 2023aLIENpeople complain about AI then turn around and listen to lil baby
May 7, 2023·2 repliesKeeEven then the street s*** won't last that long either, because it'll get super repetitive and boring.
well to be fair street raps always have been popular since gangsta rap, even if it wasnt always the main sound of mainstream hip hop it always had an audience and never really went away so idk if thats true
May 7, 2023A HIGH RANT ABOUT THE DECLINE OF HIPHOP
BRAVE· editedEDIT: WHY would non-well known niggas or underground rappers be included in this, use your f***ing brains use some common sense this only applies to mainstream and generally well known rappers
https://voca.ro/1oeLbR5dbtcx
- BRAVE
I will listen after I'm done using the bathroom, though lemme type out my initial thoughts to the thread title
Yes and No. I remember someone made a topic that people were dismissive of about how no rapper (besides Lil Uzi, which I don't disagree with but also consider him to be part of why hip hop is dying on a consumer level) embodies the 5 pillars of hip hop anymore, and given as to how corporate it is and how it's penetrated it's way into white America these last couple years, yea the original form is "dead"
But it's also very much alive due to the producers/artists in the community have the most accessibility to get into it, and while to an extent there should be more gatekeeping in what we're willing to accept as "hip-hop" (such as Post Malone, for example), I think the fact that it is so accepted today is very much a beautiful thing in the long run and how people who appreciate the culture and want to get others to participate in it positively. Idk I need to wipe.
May 7, 2023aLIENpeople complain about AI then turn around and listen to lil baby
White
May 7, 2023- May 7, 2023·1 replyFailn_chill
well to be fair street raps always have been popular since gangsta rap, even if it wasnt always the main sound of mainstream hip hop it always had an audience and never really went away so idk if thats true
It never went away, that's true. But by far this has to be the worst era of Street Rap, because none of these niggas imo are really that interesting of rappers to pull off that street s*** and be something authentic, but that's just me. That makes me question if that street s*** is going to keep Rap going.
I got my own opinions than everybody else, I just let people enjoy what they love.
- May 7, 2023Bergrat
Its cause the new gen cant deliver the new superstars or they died
Lone right here