May 7, 2023·1 replyI've said this in some other thread but it’s also because we couldn’t find any successor to Drake. Drake is already 15 years in the game. Most new rap artists don’t want to be mainstream rappers anymore like Drake, Wayne, Ye. They just want to just be popular in their niche like Yeat, Destroy Lonely etc.
May 7, 2023
Failn_chillwell to be fair street raps always have been popular since gangsta rap, even if it wasnt always the main sound of mainstream hip hop it always had an audience and never really went away so idk if thats true
True but now there’s no balance. Look at the xxl freshmen list for the past decade it’s mostly street rappers. There used to be a balance of everything. Artist like Blue Navy and Mike aren’t even mentioned in these platforms.
Ten years ago a new artist like Redveil or Machhommy would’ve been everywhere not just in small online spaces and forums
May 7, 2023
Shady AntWhat do you think pushed it out? Other genres growing in popularity like afrobeat or Latin music?
despite what y’all may think lol it feels like big rappers are dropping music less
they stopped promoting their music which makes people not want to care
label s***and all of the streaming services caught up to global music
instead of leaving it untappedniggas blaming strictly the artists is only the half
May 7, 2023Gotta be one of the fruitiest images i've seen on this site
May 7, 2023·2 repliesImo hip hop will never die.
May 7, 2023Every genre of music has it's highs and lows in popularity look at he last 80 years as proof lol
The genre is fine, the ones pushed as mainstream are kinda meh is all
May 7, 2023Ya mainstream is cooked
Underground will always be there deaux
- May 7, 2023
the only reason ppl think this is because the music they imagine being created now based on the trajectory of previous music is not happening.
ik this cus when 2015-2016 came i was expecting the crazy metro boomin style beats to stay hot but it got overshadowed by s***ty guitar and piano beats. it felt to me like the art form was becoming stagnant. now i see it was just a phase and more cool s*** did arrive
hip hop isnt dying you just need to open your mind and adjust expectations
edit: tbh im capping a lil, it is definitely declining in quality and popularity will follow, but theres a lot of dope artists people just need to adjust their expectations and support talent so artists can develop
- May 7, 2023
Utopia on the way
your fears will be addressed 
May 7, 2023i remember this being an argument in like 2012 and people were saying dubstep would take over
while dubstep never got as big as latin music has gotten now, i think hip hop won’t die, but maybe just settle like rock did, still a popular genre - the “default genre” everyone knows and listens to, but more emphasis is put on the genre they are unfamiliar with but is getting more popular, i.e. latin music
May 7, 2023·1 reply
Gay Ave StanAlright, so, um, I'm zoingy-boingy, I'm high. But uh, I've been meaning to go on this rant, m'kay, it's not an angry rant like my Batman rant, okay? As you can see from the picture, I'm chillin', chillin' like a villain, but I'm not the Joker, okay? Let's tie that back to Batman. Anyhow, this is just, I don't know, it's a deep dive, right? But not to get too caught up on the setup. Cause every great story needs one, right? Hahaha. But anyway. So hip-hop is in a decline, okay? I know nobody wants to say it and if you say it, you're out-of-touch, you're any of that... It's on a f***ing decline, okay? It's to the point black people are saying it. You'd have been seen as a c**n or a lame motherfucker if you said that, but now, black people are saying it. Young black people are even saying it, okay? It's bad. And yes, hip-hop has had a quote-unquote "decline"... The genre has had a decline, a big decline that was noticeable in the Shiny Suit Era, right? But hip-hop didn't become lame, right? There was still cool s*** coming out in the shiny suit era - I was even a part of the Shiny Suit Era. Hip-hop is lame right now, and that's worse, y'know? And we were talking about it in the chat last night, where, that... Hip-hop was for a period now, the default music genre around the world for what's cool. And now that hip-hop has become lame, it's given way to other genres to blow up, y'know, and people to give a chance. Um, with country and pop and y'know, some of those rock elements in music, slowly creepin up right now, but internationally as well. That's why you even have a lot of young people - period - listening more to f***in' Burna Boy than somebody like Lil Durk, or... not even Lil Durk, but like, somebody like that, for example. Because those other genres are providing that cool factor. While hip-hop is - for the most part - it's lame right now. And that can't be denied. It's lame, it's negative, it's emotionless, it's humanless. That's what it is overall right now. That is the representation of it. And so, for like Mexico specifically, right? We were talking about this in the chat, it was brought up, how, y'know, Peso Puma and all these guys, they're providing that cool American factor, y'know - with the videos, with the fashion, with the visuals. And they're looking like the cool rappers. While also now, they're making cool music for their own culture. So they're like, "Okay, f*** hip-hop, we're getting the cool stuff that we got from hip-hop, and we're getting our culture authentically, let's go to that". And the whole world. Like we were talking about in the chat. How, y'know, people within Mexican culture that wouldn't even- that would look down on the Mexican regional music, cause they were Mexican-Americans. Now they're even listening to the f***ing Mexican authentic music. Y'know, because that's become the cool thing that's a lot of... Across all these genres, they're all becoming more cool, in the wake of hip-hop becoming lame. And that's a problem. Okay? And we need to - there's no more not acknowledging it. You're not an oldhead. You're not a lame. You're not out-of-touch. It's clear as day. Okay? And I said I wasn't gonna get mad with this one. But, I'm feeling like imma get turnt up. So before that happens, imma slow down, and just leave y'all with that. Happy Friday, or Saturday. For a lot of y'all 'round here, Sunday. SUNDAY FUNDAY!!! Sunday Funday vibes. Alright, we out.
- BRAVEYou transcribed this all by ear?
May 7, 2023A Mad Ass NiggaImo hip hop will never die.
Exactly
- May 7, 2023·edited·2 replies
And another thing where the f*** are these black people saying hiphop is on the decline? I don’t hear this anywhere lmao
Stop letting spotify charts cloud y'all brain I remember y’all thought the same s*** in 2018 when white rappers started taking over the charts
May 7, 2023
quadraWhen you think about it
Hispanic people went to Bad Bunny and white girls went back to pop
And now we have Morgan Wallen running around like he's Pac
That 2016-2019 prop up of hip-hop just not there anymore
hip hop needs us
May 7, 2023
KeeIt never went away, that's true. But by far this has to be the worst era of Street Rap, because none of these niggas imo are really that interesting of rappers to pull off that street s*** and be something authentic, but that's just me. That makes me question if that street s*** is going to keep Rap going.
I got my own opinions than everybody else, I just let people enjoy what they love.
I think a lot of yall itt look at the early 00s wave of street rap with rose tinted glasses.
I think a lot of ppl itt forgot (and maybe i remember this vividly being from the south) the “snap music” era.
Ppl were actively s***ting on Lil Wayne for a number of years at one point while he was in his commercial prime! (I was one of em)
- May 7, 2023
time to see who the real fans were and who was just here for the ride
May 7, 2023We’re just stagnating atm
There will be another post ringtone rap esque renaissance soon, I’m sure of it
- May 7, 2023·1 reply
Also Ktt in the gutter wtf is this thread op weird asl
- May 7, 2023·2 repliesDicherdownDAVE9
And another thing where the f*** are these black people saying hiphop is on the decline? I don’t hear this anywhere lmao
Stop letting spotify charts cloud y'all brain I remember y’all thought the same s*** in 2018 when white rappers started taking over the charts
There are black ppl that argue the s*** is boring or the s*** has gotten stale.
The ONLY (and I do mean the only) thing accurate is hip hop PRODUCTION no longer requires any individuality. One style blow up, every other producer gotta mimic it.
At least with the early 00s everyone had their own style so even if they attempted something different, it would be their own take on it. Which made it cool.
And people gotta admit s*** like splice, loopmakers, getting rid of arts programs, while opening accessibility for ppl to come in the door, it’s also opened up the door for lazy lazy LAZY ass beats.
Which in turn hurt the rappers and their reputation as boring rappers when honestly they just need better production. (e.g. Lil Baby rapping all over a beautiful Just Blaze beat just to go back to the same piano trap beats. I swear as a piano player I’ve never heard the piano as boring as it has in this era lol)
- May 7, 2023A Mad Ass Nigga
Imo hip hop will never die.
It never will due to the fact gatekeeping it really aint possible.
No genre really dies unless it hara-kiris itself off the strength of exclusivity. (E.g. rock’s racis/jazz’s reputation)
We want gatekeeping but that s*** is kinda what actually kills genres.
May 7, 2023
necromancerLIVE VLONE DIE VLONE
May 7, 2023·1 replyno gunna or thug :(
- May 7, 2023·1 replyinsertcoolnamehere
There are black ppl that argue the s*** is boring or the s*** has gotten stale.
The ONLY (and I do mean the only) thing accurate is hip hop PRODUCTION no longer requires any individuality. One style blow up, every other producer gotta mimic it.
At least with the early 00s everyone had their own style so even if they attempted something different, it would be their own take on it. Which made it cool.
And people gotta admit s*** like splice, loopmakers, getting rid of arts programs, while opening accessibility for ppl to come in the door, it’s also opened up the door for lazy lazy LAZY ass beats.
Which in turn hurt the rappers and their reputation as boring rappers when honestly they just need better production. (e.g. Lil Baby rapping all over a beautiful Just Blaze beat just to go back to the same piano trap beats. I swear as a piano player I’ve never heard the piano as boring as it has in this era lol)
The only thing that would make hiphop stale right now is the labels, they don’t develop these artist and just find the nigga with the most views on youtube even tho he sound like 7 different niggas the labels used to care about the music plus the check. Now they just care about the check…
- May 7, 2023lewinskysdress
no gunna or thug :(
This gonna hurt Atlanta rap but hip hop as a whole will be fine.
Our current scene dying figuratively and literally (rip take and keed) will be nothing more but a blip in hip hop’s timeline just like pac and big passing was.
- May 7, 2023·1 replyDicherdownDAVE9
The only thing that would make hiphop stale right now is the labels, they don’t develop these artist and just find the nigga with the most views on youtube even tho he sound like 7 different niggas the labels used to care about the music plus the check. Now they just care about the check…
What labels these niggas is dropping hits before they get signed big dawg lol