May 5, 2023ballerinakeep dreaming
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- May 5, 2023·2 repliesSmoofer
True, but if consensus was strong enough against that policy it would change
I don’t think this is really true, the US doesn’t work on policy based on majority consensus, despite popular belief. The country would be way more conservative if that was the case (or alternatively, you’d have way more basic moderate establishment politicians in office).
- May 5, 2023·1 reply
papawheelyOut
I don't know what to tell you. I'm not David p, and I will never claim to be. Please stop.
May 5, 2023·1 replyi once bought a homeless/beggar a tall boy bud light when he asked me to before going into the liquor store, and i’d do it again tbh.
system for homeless people is broken, but i’m not going to deny a man without the means to get what he wants, what he wants, as long as it’s reasonable.
- May 5, 2023·1 replykrishna bound
I don’t think this is really true, the US doesn’t work on policy based on majority consensus, despite popular belief. The country would be way more conservative if that was the case (or alternatively, you’d have way more basic moderate establishment politicians in office).
most of us just want to be left alone. looking at the political landscape would give you the opposite impression
- May 5, 2023·1 replyhoopsplayer21
i once bought a homeless/beggar a tall boy bud light when he asked me to before going into the liquor store, and i’d do it again tbh.
system for homeless people is broken, but i’m not going to deny a man without the means to get what he wants, what he wants, as long as it’s reasonable.
Say it louder for people in the back, please!
May 5, 2023·1 replyMountain DudeHell. Yeah that's what is so f***ed up right now. It feels like going against the "status quo" is looked at badly.
i don’t think there’s bad opinions unless you advocate for harm/violence. nothing is white or black just shades of grey. no perfect way to approach the situation it’s tough
- May 5, 2023·1 replykrishna bound
I don’t think this is really true, the US doesn’t work on policy based on majority consensus, despite popular belief. The country would be way more conservative if that was the case (or alternatively, you’d have way more basic moderate establishment politicians in office).
If every single person wanted that to change it would change. But I agree that our system isn’t designed with general consensus as the driving force behind policy
- May 5, 2023Mountain Dude
Say it louder for people in the back, please!
i thought you were arguing against giving homeless people money?
- May 5, 2023·1 replyMountain Dude
I don't know what to tell you. I'm not David p, and I will never claim to be. Please stop.
Buddy I was making a (hilarious!) joke using the ‘I’m f***ing Davidp’ setup pls learn to see past the insecurity this site has alrdy given you
- May 5, 2023·1 replyballerina
most of us just want to be left alone. looking at the political landscape would give you the opposite impression
It’s more complicated though once policy starts to implicate by proxy one’s environment or children (by perception of the individual)
- May 5, 2023Classique
i don’t think there’s bad opinions unless you advocate for harm/violence. nothing is white or black just shades of grey. no perfect way to approach the situation it’s tough
Best opinion in this thread. Yes, it's a case by case scenario.
- May 5, 2023papawheely
Buddy I was making a (hilarious!) joke using the ‘I’m f***ing Davidp’ setup pls learn to see past the insecurity this site has alrdy given you
Do you want to debate about this topic above?
- May 5, 2023krishna bound
It’s more complicated though once policy starts to implicate by proxy one’s environment or children (by perception of the individual)
you spitting
- May 5, 2023·2 repliesSmoofer
If every single person wanted that to change it would change. But I agree that our system isn’t designed with general consensus as the driving force behind policy
I have to disagree. I would prob say every middle class person in the US hates the rich but it hasn’t changed anything. Everyone in the world is against bureaucracy and corruption but it hasn’t changed anything. Opinion doesn’t matter without action.
May 5, 2023·1 replyMountain Dude"other opinions" = "you're against me"
what’s like the “status quo” in your opinion
And again like reducing this entire thing down to someone handing homeless people money/food/water on the streets isn’t even like a serious debate man respectfully
what’s there to actually debate on. You don’t have to give them $5 next time, if everyone stops giving them money they’re still gonna be homeless and probably feeling s***ty
Atleast they can have a quick high or use the money to get food in the meantime.
You seem smart so seriously like I can’t see how having a nuanced debate on such a tiny part of the entire housing solution in America is really worth it
- May 5, 2023krishna bound
I have to disagree. I would prob say every middle class person in the US hates the rich but it hasn’t changed anything. Everyone in the world is against bureaucracy and corruption but it hasn’t changed anything. Opinion doesn’t matter without action.
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- May 5, 2023·2 replieskrishna bound
I have to disagree. I would prob say every middle class person in the US hates the rich but it hasn’t changed anything. Everyone in the world is against bureaucracy and corruption but it hasn’t changed anything. Opinion doesn’t matter without action.
Clearly not everyone lol, otherwise who would be doing it? I’m sure this seems pedantic but it’s not like there’s absolutely NO correlation between policy and opinion. Someone is making the policies
- May 5, 2023·1 replySmoofer
Clearly not everyone lol, otherwise who would be doing it? I’m sure this seems pedantic but it’s not like there’s absolutely NO correlation between policy and opinion. Someone is making the policies
I know there’s no correlation between opinion and policy, that’s why I said popular consensus doesn’t matter…
- May 5, 2023·1 replySmoofer
Clearly not everyone lol, otherwise who would be doing it? I’m sure this seems pedantic but it’s not like there’s absolutely NO correlation between policy and opinion. Someone is making the policies
absolute power corrupts absolutely, and “getting yours” tends to have a “fuck everyone else” effect on people. s***ty but true
- May 5, 2023·1 replykrishna bound
I know there’s no correlation between opinion and policy, that’s why I said popular consensus doesn’t matter…
? Re read my post
- May 5, 2023ballerina
absolute power corrupts absolutely, and “getting yours” tends to have a “fuck everyone else” effect on people. s***ty but true
Agreed
- May 5, 2023afterimage
what’s like the “status quo” in your opinion
And again like reducing this entire thing down to someone handing homeless people money/food/water on the streets isn’t even like a serious debate man respectfully
what’s there to actually debate on. You don’t have to give them $5 next time, if everyone stops giving them money they’re still gonna be homeless and probably feeling s***ty
Atleast they can have a quick high or use the money to get food in the meantime.
You seem smart so seriously like I can’t see how having a nuanced debate on such a tiny part of the entire housing solution in America is really worth it
Honestly you're right.
- May 5, 2023·1 replySmoofer
? Re read my post
I’m confused what you’re saying, you first said consensus informs results but then said popular opinion doesn’t matter?
- May 5, 2023·1 reply
@papawheely I get it, sorry.