House of Balloons is a Pop Album

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  • Oct 15, 2020
    Tomorrow

    One of the things that doesn't get brought up a lot when discussing pop music is song structure. Song structure is basically just the blueprint for the direction in which a song will go, which is one of the biggest gripes about pop music because the structure of the songs almost always follows the same formula, that's what makes it "pop music".

    Said song structure typically consists of an INTRO followed by a VERSE (A), (sometimes a PRE CHORUS in between these) HOOK (B), VERSE (A), HOOK (B), BRIDGE (C), and then finally the HOOK (B) again, and sometimes followed by an outro. A (pc) B A (pc) B C B is what we're looking at here.

    HOB is chock full of songs that mimic this form almost perfectly.

    Arte

  • Oct 15, 2020
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    Art pop

  • Oct 15, 2020
    Tomorrow

    Also when do you think The Weeknd “started making pop”? Because he’s been getting the “you changed” comments since 2013 lol

    This some facts

    People really been faulting his transition to pop since Wanderlust

  • Oct 15, 2020
    eversince

    Art pop

  • OP
    Oct 15, 2020
    choc soc

    Thread makes no sense

    How so?

  • Oct 15, 2020
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    Yall Putting HOB over Blonde or CO?????

  • Oct 15, 2020

    Lmao this is the most reductive line of thinking

    Hob has pop song structure -> its a pop album -> weeknd has never changed up he always been pop

    Sonics matter dog idc if it goes verse chorus verse The Knowing is not a pop song

  • Oct 15, 2020
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    jjjjjound

    Yall Putting HOB over Blonde or CO?????

    this thread isn't comparing HOB to any other projects. make a thread man

  • Oct 15, 2020
    jjjjjound

    Yall Putting HOB over Blonde or CO?????

    No

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    provider

    this thread isn't comparing HOB to any other projects. make a thread man

    Good idea lol I just tried but I'm unable to make threads

  • Oct 15, 2020
    Tomorrow
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    So the answer is YES The Weeknd DOES have a better pop album than Bruno Mars.

    Edit: this post was just a fun jab pls don't take it as seriously as some of yall have lmao

    there it is

  • OP
    Oct 15, 2020
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    Tomorrow

    I made that Bruno post so people didn’t come itt and say “you just made this thread bc of Bruno Mars”

    Wanted to beat them to the punch even though this isn’t really about him, it’s more so about the “turned pop” thing I mentioned earlier

    I also would like to see House of Balloons mentioned in pop album discussions

    @guwop1017

  • Oct 15, 2020
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    I mean if u wanna compare wicked games to thats what i like do so by any means but imma look at u like the crackhead u are

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    Oct 15, 2020
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    guwop

    I mean if u wanna compare wicked games to thats what i like do so by any means but imma look at u like the crackhead u are

    Who's doing that ITT?

  • Oct 15, 2020
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    While I'm not sure I completely agree (HoB has always been R&B to me)

    By the time we reached Echoes of Silence, he had become pop

    There is an incoherence (the good kind) to HoB & Thursday that prevents them from being straight pop records for me, although across the two there are certainly flashes of the genre. . . Wicked Games, The Morning, The Birds etc.

    But by the time we reach EoS - that transition was in full swing. EoS, is easily the most commercial of the three mixtapes and legit opens with him covering a pop classic

    Interesting thread

  • Oct 15, 2020
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    eversince

    Art pop

    Alternative R&B

  • OP
    Oct 15, 2020
    RIP_Actavis

    While I'm not sure I completely agree (HoB has always been R&B to me)

    By the time we reached Echoes of Silence, he had become pop

    There is an incoherence (the good kind) to HoB & Thursday that prevents them from being straight pop records for me, although across the two there are certainly flashes of the genre. . . Wicked Games, The Morning, The Birds etc.

    But by the time we reach EoS - that transition was in full swing. EoS, is easily the most commercial of the three mixtapes and legit opens with him covering a pop classic

    Interesting thread

    Agreed. Thursday is the biggest outlier IMO because it is much less reliant on form, and has more of those freeform songs that people think of when they talk The Weeknd & Trilogy (Gone, Thursday, The Zone...)

    HOB and EOS are much more similar

  • Oct 15, 2020
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    jjjjjound

    Good idea lol I just tried but I'm unable to make threads

    We just had two of these threads already

  • Oct 15, 2020
    Tomorrow

    @guwop1017

    Weeknd went in a different direction starting with Wanderlust and Can’t Feel My Face when he started making songs that actually had pop sensibilities, even if the structure didnt change that doesnt mean he was still making the same music

  • Oct 15, 2020
    Tomorrow

    Who's doing that ITT?

    U doing that by comparing hob and 24k magic as pop albums

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    Structure is not the be all end all when it comes to defining pop lmao

  • Oct 15, 2020
    KingOfPop

    All this and Bruno still factually more talented lmao

    lol

  • Oct 15, 2020
    no color

    We just had two of these threads already

    when has that ever stopped anyone, i just didn't want this thread f***ed up

  • Oct 15, 2020
    guwop

    Structure is not the be all end all when it comes to defining pop lmao

    we've been over that. the thread is only 5 pages, if you wanted to contribute to it it's not a long read lol.

  • OP
    Oct 15, 2020
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    guwop

    Structure is not the be all end all when it comes to defining pop lmao

    then what is? I'm not saying structure is but pop music is not defined by any sort of sound as history (and this thread) would tell you