how do you organize and educate? join an org, talk to people.

thread should’ve been locked once op grasped a firm understanding of the practical implications of the concept. it’s turned into a vapid and futile capitalism v socialism argument as usual. can’t believe i read all 22 pages

telling someone what to believe in is not how you educate people

thats not what i said

I’m not sure if you’re taking any steps to do the above but if you are I wish you well.

Hopefully it amounts to something and then I can happily join :)

you tried to guilt trip me, thats not how you educate people

Then nothing will ever change. That’s what you aren’t understanding.

i didn't guilt trip you. i explained to you why simply saying "i want to make technology to end the exploitation of workers" is not a feasible goal under capitalism because that technology will be concentrated in the hands of the capitalists. if you care about ending exploitation, you need to care about ending capitalism, therefore, it is only logical to subscribe to socialism.

uhm thats why there's this whole thing about organizing being a necessity?

I'm dumber than you

This is going to go in circles btw. People will give ideas of education and “organisation” and people will keep asking for details that don’t exist.

Organizing does not happen until action is first taken

this sentence is word salad.

you asked if i wanted cereal or starving kids

I think technology will kill capitalism by removing the need for exploitation

Can you stop typing like that it’s making my eyes hurt and I’m not even talking to you

You're not above him

it goes in circles, so says you, because people like you don't really want to listen and get educated on whats necessary because you don't actually want these things.

and im telling you that's not true because technology in the hands of the capitalits will simply be used to reproduce the status quo of exploitation, just in another flavor.

It’s not

computers are better workers

Synopsis I genuinely want to listen my friend. I have been here for like 20 pages trying to get my opinion changed.

I’m unfortunately not 15 anymore so buzz words about organisation and education don’t mean much without an actual action plan.

I understand you perhaps may not have it thats why I’m not really pressing the point.

no

that's not business