Ironically I actually like Closed on Sunday. The subject matter does nothing for me, the beats are whatever, the rapping is bad but doesn't compensate with being catchy, etc.
It’s the least Kanye has cared about making music in his career and it shows in the quality of the album
Boring production on some of these tracks
Terrible performance from kanye
Hobbled together tracks
Overall boring album
some great production every now and then but kanye sounds so uninspired throughout the album with his writing. in addition, the mixing makes the whole album sound cheap as hell and he’s a billionaire
basically lol
Great album. Only hated cause of his then fresh public image of devout-Christian and cause people were expecting Yandhi.
It was a complete 180 from what people were expecting, following songs like XTCY and I Love It.
Great album.
Meant to add that part about Yandhi to my post below and forgot, great point
man was singing “you my chic fil a with the lemonade” but you racist if you don’t like it
Kanye’s fanbase post 2010 has been overrun by white hipsters. The most dangerous kind of people because they can hide their passive racism behind a thin veneer of faux-progressivism. So there’s two things going on here. A) they prefer “artsy” hip hop because that is more comfortable for their white, indie music sensibilities. JIK is a raw gospel album - a historically black genre of music - and isn’t quirky enough and doesn’t have any Bon Iver features so naturally they want nothing to do with it. B) Even tho they’ll never admit it, they prefer their black entertainers to be wilding out making fools of themselves - as long as it doesn’t offend their liberal proclivities. They can’t stand seeing a black man search for meaning and positivity in his life. This reaction is further exacerbated because it’s explicitly religious music. I’m an atheist but many of these edgy types think religion is a purely evil thing which can’t possibly be a source for some people to grow, change, and better themselves which is false.
So it’s a combination of casual liberal racism and people simply not being actual hip hop fans (which is a byproduct of said racism)
white pophead libs are Kanye's biggest d***suckers but they are racist if they don't like his gospel record and they don't like hip-hop even though JIK isn't hip hop
The era around JIK is pretty great imo. Sunday Service is one of the best things Kanye has ever done. Jesus Is Born is a very good gospel album.
JIK has some great songs, but it's mired by a lot of very meh or outright bad songs.
Kanye should've stuck with the gospel singing vision he had originally for the album and not rapped because Pastor Adam pushed him to do so.
white pophead libs are Kanye's biggest d***suckers but they are racist if they don't like his gospel record and they don't like hip-hop even though JIK isn't hip hop
“white pophead libs are Kanye's biggest d***suckers”
Lol no. This is the group that hates him the most lmaoo. Last year they would censor his name when they tweeted about him
Kanye’s fanbase post 2010 has been overrun by white hipsters. The most dangerous kind of people because they can hide their passive racism behind a thin veneer of faux-progressivism. So there’s two things going on here. A) they prefer “artsy” hip hop because that is more comfortable for their white, indie music sensibilities. JIK is a raw gospel album - a historically black genre of music - and isn’t quirky enough and doesn’t have any Bon Iver features so naturally they want nothing to do with it. B) Even tho they’ll never admit it, they prefer their black entertainers to be wilding out making fools of themselves - as long as it doesn’t offend their liberal proclivities. They can’t stand seeing a black man search for meaning and positivity in his life. This reaction is further exacerbated because it’s explicitly religious music. I’m an atheist but many of these edgy types think religion is a purely evil thing which can’t possibly be a source for some people to grow, change, and better themselves which is false.
So it’s a combination of casual liberal racism and people simply not being actual hip hop fans (which is a byproduct of said racism)
Some interesting points here but
The era around JIK is pretty great imo. Sunday Service is one of the best things Kanye has ever done. Jesus Is Born is a very good gospel album.
JIK has some great songs, but it's mired by a lot of very meh or outright bad songs.
Kanye should've stuck with the gospel singing vision he had originally for the album and not rapped because Pastor Adam pushed him to do so.
Also JIK suffered because of the whole leaking scandal and Yandhi
The album would've been more accepted without all the leaks
Kanye’s fanbase post 2010 has been overrun by white hipsters. The most dangerous kind of people because they can hide their passive racism behind a thin veneer of faux-progressivism. So there’s two things going on here. A) they prefer “artsy” hip hop because that is more comfortable for their white, indie music sensibilities. JIK is a raw gospel album - a historically black genre of music - and isn’t quirky enough and doesn’t have any Bon Iver features so naturally they want nothing to do with it. B) Even tho they’ll never admit it, they prefer their black entertainers to be wilding out making fools of themselves - as long as it doesn’t offend their liberal proclivities. They can’t stand seeing a black man search for meaning and positivity in his life. This reaction is further exacerbated because it’s explicitly religious music. I’m an atheist but many of these edgy types think religion is a purely evil thing which can’t possibly be a source for some people to grow, change, and better themselves which is false.
So it’s a combination of casual liberal racism and people simply not being actual hip hop fans (which is a byproduct of said racism)
I’d agree with this generally but not in the case of jik cus the main problems with that aren’t the subject matter or the genre, it’s Kanye himself
some great production every now and then but kanye sounds so uninspired throughout the album with his writing. in addition, the mixing makes the whole album sound cheap as hell and he’s a billionaire
Yep
JIK was aight for what it is and I enjoyed it a lot when it dropped but it should’ve and could’ve been so much better
It has some really good songs but once again like any Kanye album post 2016, it has a bunch of songs with half assed / lazy ideas
Half the songs on JIK just feel like interludes lmao
“white pophead libs are Kanye's biggest d***suckers”
Lol no. This is the group that hates him the most lmaoo. Last year they would censor his name when they tweeted about him
You would have to be delusional to think that. Kanye's record just did massive numbers. Who's making it so massive? The 30% of the country that is Republican? The 14.2% that is black? Most people who aren't on twitter don't treat entertainment like politics
Kanye’s fanbase post 2010 has been overrun by white hipsters. The most dangerous kind of people because they can hide their passive racism behind a thin veneer of faux-progressivism. So there’s two things going on here. A) they prefer “artsy” hip hop because that is more comfortable for their white, indie music sensibilities. JIK is a raw gospel album - a historically black genre of music - and isn’t quirky enough and doesn’t have any Bon Iver features so naturally they want nothing to do with it. B) Even tho they’ll never admit it, they prefer their black entertainers to be wilding out making fools of themselves - as long as it doesn’t offend their liberal proclivities. They can’t stand seeing a black man search for meaning and positivity in his life. This reaction is further exacerbated because it’s explicitly religious music. I’m an atheist but many of these edgy types think religion is a purely evil thing which can’t possibly be a source for some people to grow, change, and better themselves which is false.
So it’s a combination of casual liberal racism and people simply not being actual hip hop fans (which is a byproduct of said racism)
So this theory only works on the white people but what about those of us that still think it's garbage? Are we black hipsters? Asian hipsters? Puerto Rican hipsters? I'm sure Ye's fans are mostly white but I think that's only 60-70% at most
It’s just sloppily produced and Ye’s vocals on it are shaky at best. I get some enjoyment out of it tho