Mango

2y

You would have to be delusional to think that. Kanye's record just did massive numbers. Who's making it so massive? The 30% of the country that is Republican? The 14.2% that is black? Most people who aren't on twitter don't treat entertainment like politics

DEL_PBV7ve

2y

outside of like follow god on god & water album is kinda midpack

SHAQUILLE

2y

His biggest fanbase is young men from like 15-27.

“White pop head libs” are listening to s*** like Taylor Swift and Olivia rodrigo. All you need to do is look at Twitter for 5 minutes to see that’s no really his scene/demographic

mosh

2y

Some interesting points here but

• Why was Donda more well-received than JIK when they're both 'gospel' albums? Donda arguably more raw in some parts
• Wasn't Kanye wilding out during JIK era too?

6geW

2y

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the album was a pretty bold step for him but i think 20 years from now when they examine his discography this one will stick out like a sore thumb

it’s just gonna be remembered as kanye’s gospel album

if it’s even remembered

MyBallsAndMyWord

2y

The reception to Donda in the media just proves my point. Look at how it was absolutely slandered and derided in the media for s*** that had nothing to with the music

Google any random review of it and you’ll see what I mean

Bernie X

2y

JIK better than Ye at least

Nozuka

2y

Though JIK has gotten better for me with time and ye has gotten worse

Both overall messes of albums

Mango

2y

"look at twitter"

64% of twitter is male, and we know that Kanye's fanbase has a large share of female listenership

g6ntiana

2y

no, its not

Nozuka

2y

Though JIK has gotten better for me with time and ye has gotten worse

Both overall messes of albums

SHAQUILLE

2y

Yes dude look at Twitter. If you think that people who listen to Taylor Swift, Ariana grande and Olivia rodrigo, and read buzzfeed are the biggest demographic of Kanye fans then idk what to say. Cause it’s just simply not true lol

Bernie X

2y

Ye has Ghost Town and that s***s on every song on JIK

But JIK just has more good songs though due to it being 11 tracks. Don’t let the hatred of gospel cloud your thoughts peeps

WHaaaT

2y

This exactly. I’ll listen to em if I’m going through the discog and get enjoyment overall but the flaws and laziness of both albums is totally apparent if you’re not a blind ye stan

MyBallsAndMyWord

2y

Kanye’s fanbase post 2010 has been overrun by white hipsters. The most dangerous kind of people because they can hide their passive racism behind a thin veneer of faux-progressivism. So there’s two things going on here. A) they prefer “artsy” hip hop because that is more comfortable for their white, indie music sensibilities. JIK is a raw gospel album - a historically black genre of music - and isn’t quirky enough and doesn’t have any Bon Iver features so naturally they want nothing to do with it. B) Even tho they’ll never admit it, they prefer their black entertainers to be wilding out making fools of themselves - as long as it doesn’t offend their liberal proclivities. They can’t stand seeing a black man search for meaning and positivity in his life. This reaction is further exacerbated because it’s explicitly religious music. I’m an atheist but many of these edgy types think religion is a purely evil thing which can’t possibly be a source for some people to grow, change, and better themselves which is false.

So it’s a combination of casual liberal racism and people simply not being actual hip hop fans (which is a byproduct of said racism)

g6ntiana

2y

ghost town and violent crimes alone are better than whole jik lmao

Bernie X

2y

I think violent crimes is cringe

But yeah that’s what I said. Ghost Town the song is “better than whole jik lmaoz”, but JIK still has the most good songs of the two

g6ntiana

2y

cool buddy