@Water_Giver I fukced up the links lmao gimme a minute

No im saying Grime is still hip hop

Drill is still hip hop

Trap is still hip hop

Cloud rap still hip hop

Yea theres sub genres for everything but the s*** is still hip hop the essence the history and roots all go back

FAXX

You said anything rapping over a beat is hip hop

So is Get Up Stand Up a hip hop song?

Imagine mfs that made west coast gangsta rap started saying “we not hip hop”

You draggin it rn

That’s not the same thing at all lmao you’re being purposefully obtuse and not listening to anything anyone is telling you itt

You’re talking out you’re ass

started skimming thru it and the part from 46 min to 48min renegaded your first 15 min, sorry

part at 55 min too

facts

@Water_Giver
I used to think grime was basically just hip-hop too but it's really wrong when you look into it. I had to understand the evolution of the genre first to get it.

There are some cool grime songs. Let me show some:

Grime basically grew out of garage MCs becoming too aggressive for the genre and forming their own niche as garage mixed more with pop and r&b music.

James Blake comes from dubstep music. This is a term Americans really b******ized with their Skrillex brostep. Dubstep is also a UK genre related to grime. James Blake and Mount Kimbie stand in the same tradition.

Garage also mixed with house, here is a New Jersey artist who did UK garage (more famous in UK than in his own country):

Then there's also drum & bass, here an example:

I'm not much into jungle or dub but those exist too.

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Y’all are right it ain’t hip hop I was hating

Hmu if you ever want grime recs

we live and we learn

Yeah drop some itt

Will do after work

how about NOW

The things is that trap, drill, cloud rap all came out DIRECTLY from hip hop, grime did not it was just influenced by it

Garage pop from Japan. Has chopped vocals in the chorus, the typical fast beats with lots of syncopation and arpeggiated strings.

All you niggas wrong mfs rapping is hip hop
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I skimmed them rn n that Sweet Female Attitude one is DEF going into my dance/midnight-car YT playlist

Imma give them all a througho listen when I got a chance, but YES I FUXX with Mount Kimbie too heavy af Cold Spring Fault Less Youth one of my favs ever n got me more into Instrumental based projects which led to more stuff like Tokimonsta n Ta-Ku

Yall kill it in RnB n Instrumental works I always fuxx with those scenes heavy af

And yeah I know lmao I found that out about the true dubstep once I discovered James with his S/T debut when i was still in HS which led me on the journey of the whole alt rnb n electronic scene.

F***ing America labels do it to ourselves. Like how Trap is b******ized in our own country with those generic EDM/Brostep mixes that they label as "Trap" for some reason

Nah I see what they’re saying tbh.

Grime and hip hop both evolved from a common ancestor. They are related, and one has been influenced by the other but they are still different things

yeah these tracks not it for me tbh

the "aggressive" stuff posted before sounds waaaaaay better

I prefer more atmospheric stuff I guess. Some folks like the "beat your mom" music more. There's aggressive drum & bass too, and jungle can sound quite harsh at times IMO.
To each his own