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  • Aug 20, 2024
    insertcoolnamehere

    mans dissed malcolm x in a topic about ian and then wonders why he got thrown to the lions.

    respect for taking (mostly) accountability though.

    Ill b honest I was tryna make it entertaining, that's my personality I say wild s*** for fun

  • Water Giver

    Tylers music was mostly popular with "weirdo alt" black people and white skater kids

    He had many black fans just as white, they just werent "normal black" people lol

    In early OF days, bro had fans anyone young from Hispanic to white and black. Even some normie folks were f***ing with the antics

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    Block Muteson

    I think Earl and Slums mutually benefited from all of that. He found a new direction and all those guys found audiences. MIKE especially.

    Tyler is also a producer and a music video director. Who's he sending beats? Is he shooting anyone's videos?

    Say you want more DJ Quiks and only put on Teezo rockstar. Doesn't track

    you do have a point there though, as much as tyler is inspired by pharrell he isn’t exactly out here making the entire industry better by producing and writing for people like big P was doin back in the day and even a few years ago. tf is he even doing these days, making LV runoff ass clothes with his brand i guess? i do fw tyler overall though

  • Aug 20, 2024
    Otos

    Also @YoungNastyShawty idk if you've seen this but Ian's official spokesperson in this thing is this 30 year old white trust fund finance guy who got famous on tik tok for putting underground rap in his videos
    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe3YneVx/

    Lmaooooooooo

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    excited to watch this, i just made one too

    decided not to make its own thread cause i think we have hit critical mass of discussion on this damn interview on here lmaoo

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    hadji

    excited to watch this, i just made one too

    !https://youtu.be/dnSlktC6HTI?si=AnWfvbkmH_XLZZR3

    decided not to make its own thread cause i think we have hit critical mass of discussion on this damn interview on here lmaoo

    Gotta watch this later

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    voriox

    you do have a point there though, as much as tyler is inspired by pharrell he isn’t exactly out here making the entire industry better by producing and writing for people like big P was doin back in the day and even a few years ago. tf is he even doing these days, making LV runoff ass clothes with his brand i guess? i do fw tyler overall though

    Pharrell was getting placements by everyone and they mama.

    Tyler was/is not.

  • Aug 20, 2024
    YoungNastyShawty

    Gotta watch this later

    yea the thumbnail is a lil bit clickbaity for me i dont think hes actually an oldhead but i do think tyler is blessed to have not tried to get famous in the algorithms era

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    Pharrell was getting placements by everyone and they mama.

    Tyler was/is not.

    i guess you’re right. he used to talk all the time about how he tried to send people tracks but they’d always reject em lol. s*** makes me sad

  • Aug 20, 2024
    insertcoolnamehere

    That 13:30 onwards is exactly why niggas was mad about that panel.

    The white/white adjacent demographic of this site don’t understand that kinda anger tho.

    NAH YNS SPITTING FROM HERE ON

    SOME OF YALL DONT UNDERSTAND MAN

  • Aug 20, 2024
    voriox

    i guess you’re right. he used to talk all the time about how he tried to send people tracks but they’d always reject em lol. s*** makes me sad

    Because artists these days are

    Type YouTube beats ruined artists actually taking risks.

    Christina Aguilera used a goddamn Dj Premier beat for one of her biggest songs. Now every pop girl gotta sound the same.

    Rappers oh we already dont need to talk about how bad they gotten at beat selection.
    It’s crazy all these years and Kendrick the ONLY mainstream rapper that hopped on a Knxwledge beat?

    Like Pharrell was blessed to be in an era folks wanted to venture out to those weird beep boop sounds of his and Chad’s. Tyler’s been handicapped cause these niggas keep turning down his beats.

  • Aug 20, 2024

    I be on here doing all that teaching

  • Aug 20, 2024
    hadji

    excited to watch this, i just made one too

    !https://youtu.be/dnSlktC6HTI?si=AnWfvbkmH_XLZZR3

    decided not to make its own thread cause i think we have hit critical mass of discussion on this damn interview on here lmaoo

    listening at work

  • Aug 20, 2024

    we are old heads lol in all forms of art. The medium has entirely changed whether you are talking music, movies, tv or film

    the delivery method has entirely changed

    s*** even in food

    we biked to Mcdonalds with our quarters

    a kid today can wake up turn on a cellphone and have food delivered to them

    we live in the "future"

    in terms of everything is much more accessible

    we grew up on AOL Dial up the process to receive ANY FORM OF INFORMATION used to take more work and cost more effort and attention in every way shape and form

    Artist arent going to take art SERIOUSLY

    because ITS DEVALUED

    so when I go at Tyler its because he is punching down at the artist more than THE MACHINE

    you are using your bullets on the henchmen while the bosses are laughing at that

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    Great video Eric. my only hope is some type of new curation tool and better A & Rs come into existence.

    Would love a platform that exposes ppl to new music like tik tok does, yet has some sort of quality filter. but at that point it becomes so subjective.

    and @Thichquangduck been thinking about your point of streaming killing hip hop def think it correlates with russ's tweet about hip hop in the early 2010s a couple days ago.

  • Aug 20, 2024

    MTV doesnt exist in any way shape or form

    it went from music television to giving you marathons of cops and cheaters

    there are people who never watch music videos anymore its shifted to youtube and stans arguing on social media

  • Aug 20, 2024
    BrainWorms4U

    Great video Eric. my only hope is some type of new curation tool and better A & Rs come into existence.

    Would love a platform that exposes ppl to new music like tik tok does, yet has some sort of quality filter. but at that point it becomes so subjective.

    and @Thichquangduck been thinking about your point of streaming killing hip hop def think it correlates with russ's tweet about hip hop in the early 2010s a couple days ago.

    Yes everything has changed. The only benefit to streaming has been like a moment like this year of two artist dropping disses back and forth. It created a MOMENT . we were like "oh s*** kendrick dropped" we dropped our life and immediately listened

    people listened while in their zoom meeting it was a MOMENT

    it was channeling the virality of us hearing words put together we never thought two artist would finally challenge each other

    it was Batman vs Superman

    but the structure of streaming and "oh s*** this artist hasnt dropped in 5 years and I cant see their social media post they might as well be dead"

    WHICH WAS THE EXACT PURPOSE OF FRANK OCEANS ENDLESS LIVE STREAM

    our consumption of art and artist has changed so much . They take ad money, we see Chance the rapper see that he possibly doesnt believe in dinosaurs.

    Back when I bought TI Paper Trail from Best Buy I didnt know he was possibly trafficking humans lol

    I just knew BIG THINGS POPPIN

    YES YOU CAN SIT ON THE INTERNET AND DISCUSS IAN but its MORE WORTHWHILE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE

  • Aug 20, 2024

    all art mediums have been devalued.

    they should ALL go on strike

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    hadji

    excited to watch this, i just made one too

    !https://youtu.be/dnSlktC6HTI?si=AnWfvbkmH_XLZZR3

    decided not to make its own thread cause i think we have hit critical mass of discussion on this damn interview on here lmaoo

    As he is saying we went from an ipod to an ipod touch to a device that can do damn near anything

    When I first heard My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy I could primarily listen in one place

    Needed to go to a large computer or laptop to come to KTT to discuss it in full

    Cellphones were still kind of slow

    we texted twitter to tweet

    now I can see what a million people think of a song the second it comes out

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    OHMNI

    As he is saying we went from an ipod to an ipod touch to a device that can do damn near anything

    When I first heard My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy I could primarily listen in one place

    Needed to go to a large computer or laptop to come to KTT to discuss it in full

    Cellphones were still kind of slow

    we texted twitter to tweet

    now I can see what a million people think of a song the second it comes out

    ayo check dms

  • Aug 20, 2024
    insertcoolnamehere

    ayo check dms

    gotcha

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    AvenueJones

    That ageism s*** weird to me but maybe it’s because I’m approaching 30 lol but I just never looked at it like that. I remember my brother at 26 tellin me at 20-21 that he felt like he couldn’t relate to the new era of rap (early SoundCloud wave at that time) and I thought he was crazy like nigga you ain’t even old.

    And now I got niggas callin me unc in IG comments

    That's why I be on here spreading information and literature about niggas

  • Aug 20, 2024
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    hadji

    excited to watch this, i just made one too

    !https://youtu.be/dnSlktC6HTI?si=AnWfvbkmH_XLZZR3

    decided not to make its own thread cause i think we have hit critical mass of discussion on this damn interview on here lmaoo

    Hanging mic epidemic is a crazy bar

  • Aug 20, 2024

    people take oldhead as a bad term when I jokingly own it because we genuinely lived a different life than the youth and thats okay but accept reality

  • Aug 20, 2024
    lacriminal

    Hanging mic epidemic is a crazy bar

    lmaooo i honestly had an idea to make a whole video about that, with it being the title, a few months ago when ian and 4batz vids first dropped but i ended up not doing it. i might pick it back up though

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