Tyler literally spurred the conversation. Also why even make that concession unless u know what I said to be true
Except @op been said this s*** months ago
Tyler literally spurred the conversation. Also why even make that concession unless u know what I said to be true
Tylers music was mostly popular with "weirdo alt" black people and white skater kids
He had many black fans just as white, they just werent "normal black" people lol
And personally it was the "weirdo" black kids that rode the hardest for OF from merch to publically blasting their music etc.
I have my own personal memory of a nigga picking us up to get weed in highschool and him blasting Excuse my French
Except @op been said this s*** months ago
!https://youtu.be/1AGHALGa9CQ?si=Zb-2iF6JJoYTQwZnTouché that’s my b. I didn’t mean for that to come off as a personal attack towards OP or minimize what he’s saying. But it’s obvious the conversation at this very moment is being driven by that interview.
There's a bunch of artists that I think of in this regard, but Lil Mabu is the one that takes the cake. That guy is a mockery and irk-ridden to the core. Can't believe I've seen people on YouTube comments saying that he's making Hip Hop "interesting" and "bringing something unique"
Some nasty work being played
Touché that’s my b. I didn’t mean for that to come off as a personal attack towards OP or minimize what he’s saying. But it’s obvious the conversation at this very moment is being driven by that interview.
Like I said I don’t see a larger percentage of white people infiltrating hip hop than ever before so I don’t see the issue from that angle. The issue is quality
Hip hop has been dead since the advent of streaming arguably
If we are too quiet when artist are making less than a penny per stream how can we be surprised it becomes this?
When streams is how they make money not the quality of the actual content
it isn't about "damn you made a meaningful concept album that made me cry you get more money"
its about streams.
Lol
Another interesting aspect to this thing is that this Ian kid could probably clear the air pretty easily if he did some kind of candid interview where he genuinely adressed the criticisms, acknowledged his whiteness and spoke on his influences and love of the game. But hes not gonna do that cause the young (especially white) rappers don't have genuine personalities. All they do is play characters in promotional videos tryna go viral. (Also a lot of these young white rap fans do not like to hear any discussion on race thats another reason he wont do it)
Also @YoungNastyShawty idk if you've seen this but Ian's official spokesperson in this thing is this 30 year old white trust fund finance guy who got famous on tik tok for putting underground rap in his videos
vm.tiktok.com/ZGe3YneVx
I felt the Holy Ghost during that rant @YoungNastyShawty
powerful vid.
the point about how niggas take popular songs / samples from the 90s or w/e and reuse it in the most lazy way is so valid
by far my least fav trend for the past couple years
There's a bunch of artists that I think of in this regard, but Lil Mabu is the one that takes the cake. That guy is a mockery and irk-ridden to the core. Can't believe I've seen people on YouTube comments saying that he's making Hip Hop "interesting" and "bringing something unique"
Some nasty work being played
Lil D***y's son but at least I don't think Lil D***y is racist
Another interesting aspect to this thing is that this Ian kid could probably clear the air pretty easily if he did some kind of candid interview where he genuinely adressed the criticisms, acknowledged his whiteness and spoke on his influences and love of the game. But hes not gonna do that cause the young (especially white) rappers don't have genuine personalities. All they do is play characters in promotional videos tryna go viral. (Also a lot of these young white rap fans do not like to hear any discussion on race thats another reason he wont do it)
Yeah He's building his public persona on "omg he's a white scrawny boy and can rap??" look at his album cover and videos. He's doing it on purpose. This is why Yeat got away with it there isn't a lot of emphasis on him being white.
Lol
“ lol” is all you have to say to a post then if I call you a b**** they going to say I’m aggy
Whole time you genuinely have nothing of value to say
Why would I have a deep discussion with people who have barely interacted with the medium of cds ?
Giving all this energy to a 19 year old but not the actual people in power is why we are doomed
Why would I have a deep discussion with people who have barely interacted with the medium of cds ?
Don’t think it’s really that relevant tbh
aight so i feel like maybe the discourse i was involved in sort of led to this so ill say what i truly believe
its way easier for white rappers to blow up. we saw it with yeat, we saw it with ian, nettspend. its f***ed up that people who arent from the culture that hip hop was created from are able to surpass their black peers without putting in the work
that being said, i dont think the blame falls on the white artist. it falls on the industry, the white community, and the black artists who work with these dudes just because theyre popular. ideally the playing field is equal and white artists who are very talented get evaluated in an unbiased way. but thats not the situation. so i get why yall are mad about this.
i personally dont hate ian, but i do think the game needs to find a way to support black artists better
edit: i want to add i spoke way too crazy about this. i shoulda thought deeper before commenting. i dont rly fw yall still cus yall threw me to the lions and im not dumb enough to think it wont happen again. but i respect yalls opinion
mans dissed malcolm x in a topic about ian and then wonders why he got thrown to the lions.
respect for taking (mostly) accountability though.
the point about how niggas take popular songs / samples from the 90s or w/e and reuse it in the most lazy way is so valid
by far my least fav trend for the past couple years
This the "Bad Boy" era of sampling a 70s jam then slapping some drums and cowbells on it all over again