Kee

8mo

I do think JID having too much of image of modern day rapper is probably holding people back from being interested in him. Like I could understand why people could take a look at him and say "oh another Wayne clone"

hybrid supreme

8mo

If you wanna be mainstream big you gotta have women on your side. JID makes hoe scaring music.

hybrid supreme

8mo

non conscious rappers of that era would be dudes like Brotha Lynch Hung, Spice-1, Gravediggaz lol.

BRAVE

8mo

I also don’t like how the aspect of good and ADDICTIVE songmaking is glossed over as if this isn’t about songs at the end of the day. Like are we forgetting what songs are on College Dropout

Kee

8mo

Women are on JID side, just the girls aren't.

hybrid supreme

8mo

Come on man

insertcoolnamehere

8mo

RZA and grim reaper were still had moments of introspection

hybrid supreme

8mo

Come on man

Free YoungBoy

8mo

He had that surround sound challenge song a while back

Kee

8mo

Lemme rephrase that.

The "girlies" ain't checkin for JID, but mature-minded women are on his side

hybrid supreme

8mo

Because they literally positions themselves to be seen that way. Conscious rappers have a savior complex

insertcoolnamehere

8mo

Ah so moving the goalposts.

insertcoolnamehere

8mo

Ah so moving the goalposts.

met

8mo

Again,

We are talking about two different concepts. I understand these guys are not popular as they should be. I'm combating the take that they'd be ridiculed for doing conscious s***

Anyway,

Trap is the dominant norm now
Gangsta rap was the dominant norm

Like someone said, we need someone to break that cycle, it will happen eventually. 5-6 years ago emo rap was huge, but all those guys died off.

Free YoungBoy

8mo

He’s right though. Even if subconsciously you expect more from a Common or Kendrick than you do a Vonoff1700 type nigga

hybrid supreme

8mo

I ain't never met a non-black girl in my life who listens to JID bro

mr get dough

8mo

I agree 100% that image and marketing is crucial

But thats the problem right there is I feel like young lyrical rappers automatically assume they can’t have an image or marketing that people want to hear

Like maybe young lyrical rappers should try being more interesting or making better songs if they wanna get bigger, its definitely possible like Jid made a legit hit not too long ago obviously he had to build up to it but yeah

Kee

8mo

There's some, just not the natural public yet.

mr get dough

8mo

But he’s making a great living off music

It’s not like he’s much smaller than the dudes you named were with the exception of Ye

And thats just one example I definitely think a young upcoming dude can do it even bigger but so many lyrical dudes come in with a defeatist mindset or purposely make music for a small niche which is fine if thats what u wanna do but dont cater to a niche then be mad when you don’t reach beyond that niche

insertcoolnamehere

8mo

The overarching issue is that they not even given the fair chance.

F*** rap, jean dawson should be a superstar by now lol

BRAVE

8mo

As someone who doesn’t listen to JID regularly, answer me this honestly (people who know what a hit does and doesn’t sound like):

Is Surround Sound JID’s catchiest hook + flow + beat combo to date for a rap single? Just musically, has he had one as catchy or catchier before