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  • Sep 17, 2024
    Troy Ave Stan

    Country really is as American as possible, makes sense why they pushing it

    Better like that anyways, half yall suburbans gonna stop supporting that mysterious rap and real rap will get a chance to show out

    “real rap” bro it’s not 2006 anymore

  • Sep 17, 2024
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    If Atlantic signs Melz as general manager rap could be saved

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Whatcouldgowrong
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP6eqCOM7tk&pp=ygUKZ2xvIHJpbGxhIA%3D%3D

    This song getting played in more bars, and night clubs than any sabrina carpenter record

    It absolutely does not get played more than Espresso lmao

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Plight

    If Atlantic signs Melz as general manager rap could be saved

    They need people like him and @lonny860

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Deezed

    words arent needed, one day ktt will accept the objectivity of numbers

    lemme tell u, if ur job performance was the hiphop line and u had a 50% decrease in performance over the past 3 years, your boss (labels) are gonna slash your salary or put u on indefinite leave (shelving your albums)

    Someone let this guy manage their portfolio asap!

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Plight

    If Atlantic signs Melz as general manager rap could be saved

    Atlantic should sign me

    Haven't missed in my whole time on KTT when it comes to whose next

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Peace Kid

    country
    even drizzy had to bend the knee and move to TX

    He loading up to ride BigX and thatMexicanOT wave with melodic support from Travis and Don, his new move after ATL, pay attention

  • Sep 17, 2024
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    Deezed

    words arent needed, one day ktt will accept the objectivity of numbers

    lemme tell u, if ur job performance was the hiphop line and u had a 50% decrease in performance over the past 3 years, your boss (labels) are gonna slash your salary or put u on indefinite leave (shelving your albums)

    But will that slight growth of other genres sustain and keep growing or will everyone just now be at the same level with only the stars sticking out and listeners settling for their preferred genre?

  • Sep 17, 2024
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    Latin pop & Afrobeats

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Expert

    Karol G just did a bigger tour than Drake in 2023 in US. It's always people who don't go to tours/shows talking on the internet. S*** was a stadium tour.

    Maybe not in mid cities but LA/Miami/NY/Houston they bumping Feid heavy at all major clubs.

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Plight

    If Atlantic signs Melz as general manager rap could be saved

  • Sep 17, 2024
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    Historically, black folks have always been at the forefront of these developments. So, I'm excited to see what we venture into. I definitely hear an influence of Dance, House, and Electro Funk going around. This, in particular to the younger artists I've been listening to. So, a merger of that would be sick

    Don't get me wrong, I love Hip Hop but it's time is coming more than most people like to admit. We've been spoiled by it's dominance, to the point where we think it will stay on top forever. Same thing happened with Jazz and Rock. It'll be phased out by something cooler and defiant: that's insane to me but it's going to occur one way or another.

    R&B/Soul is always going to be the genre that'll continue to be fluid and adaptable. It's going to be popular but it's not gonna compete against the titan, per say.

    Hopefully more West Asian/Middle Eastern acts, too. I wonder if we could pull off something like Reggaeton or Afrobeats - music that is cultural, fly, modern without losing uniqueness & accessible. Might need to work on something like that myself :jayhah:

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Freight

    Karol G's North American (US & Canada) tour absolutely was not bigger than Drake's lmao

    I mean she did do $190M North America and $313M overall, gotta count for something

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Peace Kid

    country
    even drizzy had to bend the knee and move to TX

    All my exes live in Texas like I’m George strait

  • Sep 17, 2024
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    Valentine

    But will that slight growth of other genres sustain and keep growing or will everyone just now be at the same level with only the stars sticking out and listeners settling for their preferred genre?

    The latter, being that the causes of this go beyond music

  • Sep 17, 2024
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    superstar

    The latter, being that the causes of this go beyond music

    So to the original post, is this then a fault of rap for underperforming or simply regressing to an established mean of most other genres after upholding it all at a high consumption rate for a long time? Like I think we overreact to what’s happening in rap and overreact to other genres slightly performing better than where rap has regressed to

    We’ll have to see how the rest of the decade plays out, but I bet when everyone is getting consumed at the same level, for some reason, there is gonna be discussion around hiphop struggling even tho now it’s just performing like everyone else.

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Valentine

    So to the original post, is this then a fault of rap for underperforming or simply regressing to an established mean of most other genres after upholding it all at a high consumption rate for a long time? Like I think we overreact to what’s happening in rap and overreact to other genres slightly performing better than where rap has regressed to

    We’ll have to see how the rest of the decade plays out, but I bet when everyone is getting consumed at the same level, for some reason, there is gonna be discussion around hiphop struggling even tho now it’s just performing like everyone else.

    I think it's newly established mean and rap is underperforming. basically, it's not a correction and this is the new mean. Also it's not entirely the fault of rap because of the numerous outside factors like streaming/music industry infrastructure, music industry political collapse, deaths via d**** and guns, etc etc

    but yeah hip hop will absolutely be the scapegoat

  • Sep 17, 2024
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    unfortunatetruth

    The female rap push is because women actually stream and buy more merch , go to more tours then men do. Look on a site like Rostr for Male/Female splits of any Top 10 Monthly Listeners on Spotify and it will mostly all be female majority.

    And female acts are more likely to be compliant to do whatever record labels want in pursuit of money and fame

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Iron Lion Zion

    And female acts are more likely to be compliant to do whatever record labels want in pursuit of money and fame

    Classic woman move

  • Sep 17, 2024

    Everytime I hear niggas talk about who had the biggest tour I just hear Trump talking about his rallies.

  • Sep 17, 2024
    Plight

    If Atlantic signs Melz as general manager rap could be saved

    Melz could work at most labels.

  • Sep 17, 2024
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    Travis Scott sold 361K off a 10 year old project. Merch bundles or not, he almost out charted Sabrina Carpenter. Carti will sell a bunch of records. Kendrick at the Super Bow shows the obvious cultural reach the genre still has..but rap isn’t trending. Ight bro. Streamers are literally building their careers reacting and being adjacent to rap. Some of the biggest podcasts are centered around rap.

    We forever are moving the goal post on this as rap literally gets bigger and bigger culturally. You can hear the influence in most popular genres.

    The real issue? Some may just be conditioned to downplay the influence.

  • Sep 17, 2024

    they gon put fake mustaches over hip hop and continue to say “it’s dying”.

  • Sep 17, 2024
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    lonny860

    Travis Scott sold 361K off a 10 year old project. Merch bundles or not, he almost out charted Sabrina Carpenter. Carti will sell a bunch of records. Kendrick at the Super Bow shows the obvious cultural reach the genre still has..but rap isn’t trending. Ight bro. Streamers are literally building their careers reacting and being adjacent to rap. Some of the biggest podcasts are centered around rap.

    We forever are moving the goal post on this as rap literally gets bigger and bigger culturally. You can hear the influence in most popular genres.

    The real issue? Some may just be conditioned to downplay the influence.

    1. Those numbers are fugazi
    2. No he won’t
    3. NFL handed the keys to Jay back when rap was dominant. We’ll see if they re-up when the deal expires

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    xxxkiraxxx

    Hopefully more West Asian/Middle Eastern acts, too. I wonder if we could pull off something like Reggaeton or Afrobeats - music that is cultural, fly, modern without losing uniqueness & accessible. Might need to work on something like that myself :jayhah:

    West Asian & Middle Eastern acts are definitely needed