Feb 5·1 reply
Snowboy"muh heart in the right place but also f*** you brown skinned demons Iont owe you s***!"
step on a rusty nail, contract tetanus
When did I say anything about brown people being demons lmao.
I never said a bad word about them. I said I don't owe them anything. Do you think America owes Palestinians something?
Not supporting a genocide isn't something we should do out of guilt. It's because it's the right thing to do. That's not us owing them- it's obligatory and the US government has failed its people and the world on that front.
- Feb 5·1 reply
goretexi mean idk brah i dont be in this section a lot but i found so many liberals being like we cant vote for kamala because palestine and look man i get it i have donated at least a rack to the cause i advocate for them as much as possible and i am aligned with them fully. but like bro donald trump is literally the devil like i feel like we once again divide democrats and made them argue over something that imo distracted us from the true horrors that are about to occur in our home. i just dont see a world where donald trump's presidency is better for the world then kamalas
like them conservative niggas finessed us yet again and the fact everyone is doubling down on it is insane like bro what
"palestinians were all gonna die anyway, can't we focus on ourselves?"
its legit weird that you dont feel like a sociopath typing this.
- Feb 5·1 replyFka Groovy
When did I say anything about brown people being demons lmao.
I never said a bad word about them. I said I don't owe them anything. Do you think America owes Palestinians something?
Not supporting a genocide isn't something we should do out of guilt. It's because it's the right thing to do. That's not us owing them- it's obligatory and the US government has failed its people and the world on that front.
you do actually owe the palestinians that since your entire way of life is supported by the mass death of other people. again, youre a psychopath for saying "i dont owe the 400k palestinians who died s***". you should feel shame and embarrassment to even think of saying this and in reality you should be banned and to keep it a buck im just gonna keep reporting every "i dont owe the 2024 Holocaust victims s***" comment til you get banned.
- Feb 5·1 replyFka Groovy
No one is asking you, personally, to “do something.” The conversation isn’t about personal guilt—it’s about structural power, global influence, and the reality that U.S. policy impacts the world in ways that make “staying out of it” impossible. The idea that America can opt out of the consequences of its own actions is naive at best, and willfully ignorant at worst.
Then you're effectively saying nothing and should instead spend your time shutting the f*** up. What good is it to tell people they deserve something they had no control over, but then tell them it was inevitability? Just masturbatory yapping.
Because this isn't something that happened overnight, nor is it something that is the result of what the American population as a collective wants. They are effectively powerless and attempting to exert and change as much as they can without nuking their entire families. If your empathy stops there you can get f***ed tbh.
Points 1 and 2 are the same. Once again, useless self felating yap.
Wrong. The U.S. isn’t some neutral actor debating whether or not to help—it is actively funding, arming, and enabling military campaigns that result in war crimes. The “aid” being discussed here isn’t humanitarian—it’s the billions in military support that keep occupations and wars going.
3, 5, 6, 7, 8 all the way to 11 are essentially the same point, but once again you are not acknowledging that America the country and the U.S government are not the same entity.
I'm not saying the AID you get from the U.S is empathetic. I'm saying the political allies WITHIN the US that has to try to fight on YOUR BEHALF to influence the actions of the government, whether you want it or not, don't actually have to do anything for you.
And anything outside of what they actually need to do for survival in their OWN COUNTRY is an active effort from them to you for basically no benefit. If the US wanted the West Bank would have been glassed over in a week. It's tragic and it sucks.
The average American constituent is not a war monger. We don't wars. The ruling class wants wars, because wars mean sales and real estate and money talks. We have to topple the existing power structures at home first- it's been done before. America is a resilient country we will survive.
The problem is you guys are hoping and praying this will kill America and ONLY America. I got bad news for you, not only will America not die, but they will implode other countries on their skid.
You want people to feel the guilt and carry the burdens of the injustices done to the world by administrations that existed before they were even born. I'm telling you it's a useless point of strife. It's utterly useless.
"Well Americans don't want this, and yet it still happens? Interesting 😏" yea okay? That's how governments work. There are countless nations that don't want what is happening to happen. You think they can stop what's in motion in a day? With enough crying and blaming, surely that will change the course right?
You think when I say "I" I mean "me". No, the average American citizen feels exactly like this and you are mad I get it but it gets you no where. It gets you hate.
And you still are pushing this Jill Stein narrative because you're ignorant as s***. She exists not because the US population is flawed.
She is one of the only independent or third party runners in a system that's pretty much just two parties. She's a problem because she exists purely because of how money and influence can affect our political system but not some failing of the moral compass of the average American.
She MANIPULATES the otherwise benevolent voter, because America is for sale and that's a flaw in itself.
My point in facts and rhetoric directly ties to this, because even though to anyone who isn't a f***ing blowhard knows she's a waste of a vote at best and a f***ing Russian pawn at worst- she's proof that Americans are not just these morally bankrupt, willing participants as you try your hardest (and s***tiest) to paint them as.
It's not a call to get people to be complacent. The exact opposite actually.
This is you: “Why are you mad at us when we can’t do anything?” tantrum—because nothing infuriates an American more than being reminded that their actions (or lack thereof) are fundamentally irrelevant in shaping U.S. foreign policy.
Let’s be clear: this isn’t about whether you, as an individual, personally launched airstrikes or signed off on military funding. It’s about the collective reality that Americans, as a whole, live comfortably within a system that sustains war, occupation, and global exploitation. And yet, the moment anyone dares to criticize that complicity, suddenly, the real issue becomes your tone, your criticism, your refusal to coddle their feelings.
You’re frustrated that I don’t see Americans as victims in this? Tough. You’re upset that I don’t think voting, protesting, or “fighting the system from within” changes anything? Not my problem. I’m simply acknowledging reality: America functions exactly as it was designed to, and the preferences of its electorate have little to no impact on the war machine. That’s not a compliment to American power—it’s a statement of fact.
And the irony is, you agree with me. You just don’t like what follows. You say the system is controlled by money and elites, that public opinion doesn’t actually dictate foreign policy. Great! So why, then, do you demand that I separate “the American people” from “the U.S. government” when, by your own admission, one has no meaningful influence over the other? If the system is so rigged that Americans can’t stop these policies, then they are functionally indistinguishable from willing participants.
And that’s what actually bothers you. Not the criticism itself, but the fact that I refuse to grant you a moral loophole—a way to say, “I’m against it, so I shouldn’t be held responsible!” But responsibility doesn’t require intent. Benefiting from a system while failing to stop it is enough. Americans don’t have to “want” war for it to continue happening in their name. They just have to be comfortable enough that it never becomes a true political priority.
That’s why your whole response boils down to projection. You’re not actually mad at my argument—you’re mad that my existence as a Palestinian refuses to grant you unearned absolution. You want to believe in your own resistance, but deep down, you already know it doesn’t change anything. And instead of confronting that frustration, you lash out at me for acknowledging it first.
So no, I don’t care if it’s “not your fault personally.” I don’t care if you feel like you’re “trying.” I don’t care if you think America will “one day” fix itself. Because at the end of the day, none of that changes the reality on the ground. And if you don’t like that truth, that’s for you to reckon with—not me.
So yes, you deserve all the consequences coming to you because you’re perfectly comfortable with the luxuries that stem from the consequences of Americans actions on the global south.
You reap the benefits as an American and you also get what you deserve when the system now turns towards you
- Feb 5·2 repliesSnowboy
you do actually owe the palestinians that since your entire way of life is supported by the mass death of other people. again, youre a psychopath for saying "i dont owe the 400k palestinians who died s***". you should feel shame and embarrassment to even think of saying this and in reality you should be banned and to keep it a buck im just gonna keep reporting every "i dont owe the 2024 Holocaust victims s***" comment til you get banned.
The mods probably will kowtow to you but you should have been banned from this site years ago, you are a festering pustule that spews nothing but manic hate and derision against anyone who disagrees with you.
Seriously, these sections and the site as a whole would improve without you and your buddies stinking up every thread with death threats and calls for censorship.
I do not actually owe the Palestinians anything, my way of life is supported by me working 12 hours of labor 4 days a week to help my community.
What Israel is doing is unilaterally wrong and evil and they will be forever remembered for their cruelty.
- Feb 5·1 reply
"Simply put if you are voting or choosing not to based on moral superiority, you have a room temperature IQ. You are siding in the destruction of not even just America, because this country will not go under without dragging people with us."
insane nationalistic fascist threat from @Fka_Groovy
"dont f*** with me, dont f*** with america, we will bring you brown scum down with us"
yall are just MAGA scum that don't conceive of yourself as such. this is exact what palestinians said yall would do and then it happened. even more glad now I never voted for the cop.
- Feb 5Fka Groovy
The mods probably will kowtow to you but you should have been banned from this site years ago, you are a festering pustule that spews nothing but manic hate and derision against anyone who disagrees with you.
Seriously, these sections and the site as a whole would improve without you and your buddies stinking up every thread with death threats and calls for censorship.
I do not actually owe the Palestinians anything, my way of life is supported by me working 12 hours of labor 4 days a week to help my community.
What Israel is doing is unilaterally wrong and evil and they will be forever remembered for their cruelty.
the two people youre arguing with in this thread are both palestinian and you simply hate that palestinians are here on this board because we're busting your bubble.
eat s*** you loser
- Feb 5·1 replyFka Groovy
The mods probably will kowtow to you but you should have been banned from this site years ago, you are a festering pustule that spews nothing but manic hate and derision against anyone who disagrees with you.
Seriously, these sections and the site as a whole would improve without you and your buddies stinking up every thread with death threats and calls for censorship.
I do not actually owe the Palestinians anything, my way of life is supported by me working 12 hours of labor 4 days a week to help my community.
What Israel is doing is unilaterally wrong and evil and they will be forever remembered for their cruelty.
Do you have a negative IQ where do you think your higher level of wage comes from relative to 99% of the world buddy?
You wouldn’t be able to afford anything without the structural exploitation which apparently you acknowledge
This entire thread is just you crying at people spelling it out to you because you feel bad, If you actually were completely apathetic to this whole situation, you would just ignore this and laugh at your luxuries as an American but instead you sit here and psychologically project
It’s the saddest thing and embarrassing, to be honest
Seriously, examine yourself and why you chose engage with this topic in the first place as opposed to me who has had family members killed and literally raped for decades
- Feb 5·1 reply
"I hate what israel is doing but also you brown monkies should be banned and also I dont owe holocaust victims anything and my life matters more"
you will straight up never meet God
- Feb 5·1 replySnowboy
"I hate what israel is doing but also you brown monkies should be banned and also I dont owe holocaust victims anything and my life matters more"
you will straight up never meet God
It’s all psychological projection if the dude was actually uncaring he would ignore this entire topic like a lot of people do, but he sits here and tries to defend himself because he feels insecure about his poor convictions
- Feb 5·3 repliesBird Boy
This is you: “Why are you mad at us when we can’t do anything?” tantrum—because nothing infuriates an American more than being reminded that their actions (or lack thereof) are fundamentally irrelevant in shaping U.S. foreign policy.
Let’s be clear: this isn’t about whether you, as an individual, personally launched airstrikes or signed off on military funding. It’s about the collective reality that Americans, as a whole, live comfortably within a system that sustains war, occupation, and global exploitation. And yet, the moment anyone dares to criticize that complicity, suddenly, the real issue becomes your tone, your criticism, your refusal to coddle their feelings.
You’re frustrated that I don’t see Americans as victims in this? Tough. You’re upset that I don’t think voting, protesting, or “fighting the system from within” changes anything? Not my problem. I’m simply acknowledging reality: America functions exactly as it was designed to, and the preferences of its electorate have little to no impact on the war machine. That’s not a compliment to American power—it’s a statement of fact.
And the irony is, you agree with me. You just don’t like what follows. You say the system is controlled by money and elites, that public opinion doesn’t actually dictate foreign policy. Great! So why, then, do you demand that I separate “the American people” from “the U.S. government” when, by your own admission, one has no meaningful influence over the other? If the system is so rigged that Americans can’t stop these policies, then they are functionally indistinguishable from willing participants.
And that’s what actually bothers you. Not the criticism itself, but the fact that I refuse to grant you a moral loophole—a way to say, “I’m against it, so I shouldn’t be held responsible!” But responsibility doesn’t require intent. Benefiting from a system while failing to stop it is enough. Americans don’t have to “want” war for it to continue happening in their name. They just have to be comfortable enough that it never becomes a true political priority.
That’s why your whole response boils down to projection. You’re not actually mad at my argument—you’re mad that my existence as a Palestinian refuses to grant you unearned absolution. You want to believe in your own resistance, but deep down, you already know it doesn’t change anything. And instead of confronting that frustration, you lash out at me for acknowledging it first.
So no, I don’t care if it’s “not your fault personally.” I don’t care if you feel like you’re “trying.” I don’t care if you think America will “one day” fix itself. Because at the end of the day, none of that changes the reality on the ground. And if you don’t like that truth, that’s for you to reckon with—not me.
So yes, you deserve all the consequences coming to you because you’re perfectly comfortable with the luxuries that stem from the consequences of Americans actions on the global south.
You reap the benefits as an American and you also get what you deserve when the system now turns towards you
Once again you're blaming us, once again I'm telling you it's not working like that and you'll go back to seething and blaming us lmao. I keep telling you that I'm not shirking off any blame that I can't even accept.
You keep saying we "live comfortably and reap the benefits"
What comfort? What benefits? We're not a third world country, that's nice but we have gun violence at a similar rate to them. Statistically, we lag far behind other similarly developed nations in almost every category. Health, health care, education, job security, etc.
And I have the privilege of not having to dodge bombs or fight for my life, I have food on my table- I'm happy for that, but I ask once again where is this sense that everyone America is just happy with the system and willingly participating out of glee?
- Feb 5Bird Boy
It’s all psychological projection if the dude was actually uncaring he would ignore this entire topic like a lot of people do, but he sits here and tries to defend himself because he feels insecure about his poor convictions
he wants to feel good about his role in upholding and benefitting from a nazi empire while simultaneously feeling bad about it because arab genocide is simply a given and could never be stopped
- Feb 5Fka Groovy
Once again you're blaming us, once again I'm telling you it's not working like that and you'll go back to seething and blaming us lmao. I keep telling you that I'm not shirking off any blame that I can't even accept.
You keep saying we "live comfortably and reap the benefits"
What comfort? What benefits? We're not a third world country, that's nice but we have gun violence at a similar rate to them. Statistically, we lag far behind other similarly developed nations in almost every category. Health, health care, education, job security, etc.
And I have the privilege of not having to dodge bombs or fight for my life, I have food on my table- I'm happy for that, but I ask once again where is this sense that everyone America is just happy with the system and willingly participating out of glee?
every day you dont put a stop to it, its your fault. if you don't believe regular people can stop the genocide than you've simply accepted it as a given and you've condemned every arab in the fertile crescent to death.
this is fascism and you are a fascist.
- Feb 5Fka Groovy
Once again you're blaming us, once again I'm telling you it's not working like that and you'll go back to seething and blaming us lmao. I keep telling you that I'm not shirking off any blame that I can't even accept.
You keep saying we "live comfortably and reap the benefits"
What comfort? What benefits? We're not a third world country, that's nice but we have gun violence at a similar rate to them. Statistically, we lag far behind other similarly developed nations in almost every category. Health, health care, education, job security, etc.
And I have the privilege of not having to dodge bombs or fight for my life, I have food on my table- I'm happy for that, but I ask once again where is this sense that everyone America is just happy with the system and willingly participating out of glee?
You’re sitting here, comfortably debating me online, acting as if your issues with healthcare and job security put you on the same level as a people being bombed, starved, and ethnically cleansed with the direct financial and military support of your country. You complain about gun violence while my family members have been killed by U.S.-funded weapons. You talk about job insecurity while I’ve had to mourn people I love. You say you have food on your table while my people are systematically starved. You have the luxury of “asking questions” about your complicity while I live with the consequences of it.
You keep pretending not to understand what “comfort” means. It means you get to argue about this without fearing for your life. It means you’ll wake up tomorrow with running water, with electricity, with a government that, for all its corruption, won’t turn its weapons on your neighborhood. It means you can distance yourself from the system that funds all of this and say, “Well, we have problems too,” as if that changes anything.
You’re not dodging airstrikes. You’re not burying relatives. You’re not watching your land disappear, your people dehumanized, your history erased. And yet, you have the audacity to sit here and act as if you’re the aggrieved party because I won’t coddle your feelings about America’s role in all of this.
That’s what comfort looks like—the ability to have this conversation as an abstract debate while I live through its consequences.
- Feb 5·1 replyBird Boy
Do you have a negative IQ where do you think your higher level of wage comes from relative to 99% of the world buddy?
You wouldn’t be able to afford anything without the structural exploitation which apparently you acknowledge
This entire thread is just you crying at people spelling it out to you because you feel bad, If you actually were completely apathetic to this whole situation, you would just ignore this and laugh at your luxuries as an American but instead you sit here and psychologically project
It’s the saddest thing and embarrassing, to be honest
Seriously, examine yourself and why you chose engage with this topic in the first place as opposed to me who has had family members killed and literally raped for decades
Oppression Olympics against a black American with a father from Nigeria lolololol.
Cut that s*** out. That gets literally nowhere and it's actually ugly and in bad faith to leverage the suffering of your people as a moral podium for idk what? Credibility in an online argument?
Why would I be apathetic? Clearly I care right? To you, it's not enough but the real issue is it will never be enough and that's why we're here today.
You don't even know what my job is or how it benefits from the subjugation of other nations. Globalization isn't just America's fault.
- Feb 5·edited·1 replyFka Groovy
Oppression Olympics against a black American with a father from Nigeria lolololol.
Cut that s*** out. That gets literally nowhere and it's actually ugly and in bad faith to leverage the suffering of your people as a moral podium for idk what? Credibility in an online argument?
Why would I be apathetic? Clearly I care right? To you, it's not enough but the real issue is it will never be enough and that's why we're here today.
You don't even know what my job is or how it benefits from the subjugation of other nations. Globalization isn't just America's fault.
You live in f***ing America you p****
You summon some stupid phrase like oppression Olympics that screams your American privilege. I don’t give a f*** that you’re a black American.
Do your female family members get sexually assaulted on a regular basis just trying to travel from one city to another? You cry about systemic racism.
Dodging morale accountability isn’t doing you any favors, you just keep exposing yourself
- Feb 5
“Globalization isn’t just America’s fault”
Yes, I’m sure Joseph Stiglitz would agree with you the former ahead of the IMF and most accredited US economist academic who wrote the seminal work claiming otherwise
- Feb 5·4 repliesFka Groovy
Once again you're blaming us, once again I'm telling you it's not working like that and you'll go back to seething and blaming us lmao. I keep telling you that I'm not shirking off any blame that I can't even accept.
You keep saying we "live comfortably and reap the benefits"
What comfort? What benefits? We're not a third world country, that's nice but we have gun violence at a similar rate to them. Statistically, we lag far behind other similarly developed nations in almost every category. Health, health care, education, job security, etc.
And I have the privilege of not having to dodge bombs or fight for my life, I have food on my table- I'm happy for that, but I ask once again where is this sense that everyone America is just happy with the system and willingly participating out of glee?
I don’t want to speak for that guys politics but he has never mentioned himself being a communist or a leftist on this website and is speaking to you from direct experience without his rhetoric having implicit or explicit “leftist” undertones like some other users on this site
I know your hearts in the right place but yeah this is extremely sad and actual American chauvinism at its finest I can’t even really say much else just at a loss for words
- Feb 5·1 replyBird Boy
You live in f***ing America you p****
You summon some stupid phrase like oppression Olympics that screams your American privilege. I don’t give a f*** that you’re a black American.
Do your female family members get sexually assaulted on a regular basis just trying to travel from one city to another? You cry about systemic racism.
Dodging morale accountability isn’t doing you any favors, you just keep exposing yourself
It is oppression Olympics you f***ing nitwit, you're on KTT on account with no avi typing madness- this privilege I have you got some of it too.
Sorry I'm not a disabled LGBTQ Syrian child. Because my oppression isn't at terrible as yours, I cannot ever possess empathy.
You don't know any of what my female family members have went through and I refuse to debase them to engage in this petty online debate with you for clout like a f***ing weirdo. That actually pissed me off lol.
- Feb 5afterimage
I don’t want to speak for that guys politics but he has never mentioned himself being a communist or a leftist on this website and is speaking to you from direct experience without his rhetoric having implicit or explicit “leftist” undertones like some other users on this site
I know your hearts in the right place but yeah this is extremely sad and actual American chauvinism at its finest I can’t even really say much else just at a loss for words
That’s why I actually like him continuing to do this because he keeps proving my point and exposing himself
- Feb 5·1 replyFka Groovy
It is oppression Olympics you f***ing nitwit, you're on KTT on account with no avi typing madness- this privilege I have you got some of it too.
Sorry I'm not a disabled LGBTQ Syrian child. Because my oppression isn't at terrible as yours, I cannot ever possess empathy.
You don't know any of what my female family members have went through and I refuse to debase them to engage in this petty online debate with you for clout like a f***ing weirdo. That actually pissed me off lol.
You’re not in the oppression Olympics—you’re in the mental gymnastics competition, twisting yourself into knots to avoid acknowledging that your life, no matter how imperfect, will never compare to what my people endure daily. You’re on KTT, faceless, typing away about your feelings while my family members have been killed and assaulted with the weapons your government funds, and you still have the audacity to act like we’re on equal footing. The fact that you think this is about clout instead of life and death just proves how detached from reality you really are.
Awww my American baby is sad because I brought up the reality of my female family members, including my own fiancé was sexually assaulted at West Bank checkpoints — the American is mad 🥺
- Feb 5·edited·2 repliesBird Boy
You’re not in the oppression Olympics—you’re in the mental gymnastics competition, twisting yourself into knots to avoid acknowledging that your life, no matter how imperfect, will never compare to what my people endure daily. You’re on KTT, faceless, typing away about your feelings while my family members have been killed and assaulted with the weapons your government funds, and you still have the audacity to act like we’re on equal footing. The fact that you think this is about clout instead of life and death just proves how detached from reality you really are.
Awww my American baby is sad because I brought up the reality of my female family members, including my own fiancé was sexually assaulted at West Bank checkpoints — the American is mad 🥺
Then get off the f***ing computer blaming Americans for something?
I never said we're on equal footing. Not ONCE. YOU brought it up.
I said I have EMPATHY for you and I will not be quiet because you want to rage at me and get me to believe what you believe. I don't care whether you accept it, care for what I'm doing, or not. But this blame and hatred- you are misplacing it.
And stop f***ing using the suffering of your people online to win debates that's f***ing weirdo behavior. I will never ever stoop that low and exploit my own family members' pain as an example.
- Feb 5·3 replies
First two weeks
- reversed sanctions on violent Israeli settlers in WB
- reversed sanctions on Israeli settlement organizations
- ended ban on 2000-pound bomb transfers
- ended hold on 20000 assault rifle transfers
- signed EO to deport non-citizens/others who took part in pro-Palestinian protests
- proposed US to take over Gaza
- proposed forced relocations of Palestinians across middle east
- proposed US soldiers to die for Israel (disarming bombs, destroying traps, tunnels)
"If you are pro-Palestine, you cannot support Biden or Kamala"
- Feb 5Fka Groovy· edited
Then get off the f***ing computer blaming Americans for something?
I never said we're on equal footing. Not ONCE. YOU brought it up.
I said I have EMPATHY for you and I will not be quiet because you want to rage at me and get me to believe what you believe. I don't care whether you accept it, care for what I'm doing, or not. But this blame and hatred- you are misplacing it.
And stop f***ing using the suffering of your people online to win debates that's f***ing weirdo behavior. I will never ever stoop that low and exploit my own family members' pain as an example.
Buddy, what is me a Palestinian supposed to do if I even look at an IDF soldier in the wrong way they target my house for a raid. I’ve had entire family members wiped out who have been a part of resistance groups in the 70s and 80s. If I even say the wrong things online, my house will be bombed and my extended family members will be targeted in the West Bank
That’s the entire point there’s nothing to do. This conversation is only happening because you’re insecure about your complacency related to your own morality.
You sat here and responded to me a Palestinian who’s going through this when supposedly you’re arguing that you have no stake in this.
- Feb 5afterimage
I don’t want to speak for that guys politics but he has never mentioned himself being a communist or a leftist on this website and is speaking to you from direct experience without his rhetoric having implicit or explicit “leftist” undertones like some other users on this site
I know your hearts in the right place but yeah this is extremely sad and actual American chauvinism at its finest I can’t even really say much else just at a loss for words
his heart is not in the right place. he just wants to feel good about his decisions and tell himself he's a good person. Im here to tell him he isn't because that's the blow to his ego that he needs.