Feb 25, 2022
Clarence 13Xon ARE WE STILL FRIENDS? he only looped 1:45 - 2:00
https://www.whosampled.com/sample/648348/Tyler,-the-Creator-ARE-WE-STILL-FRIENDS%3F-Al-Green-Dream/
once again, you are exaggerating saying the “whole song is lifted”. everything else heard was original instrumentation. he used that loop AS a bassline.
“the stings serve the same purpose as the organs” …… yeah thats called arrangement . you’re supposed to compliment the melody. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrangement
Thats like bink playing the synths on Devil in a new dress . you’re being purposely obtuse. if this is ripping off than you have an issue with most of hip hop.
Niggas don't listen to rap lol
Feb 25, 2022
ranch duboisEveryone who has their feelings hurt bc OP is right doesn't seem to realize that the album can still be good and enjoyable even though this is true.
Feb 25, 2022·2 replieshttps://twitter.com/tylerthecreator/status/1133431505525415936
choc socthe fact he retweeted this today
hi tyler
- Feb 25, 2022ROBO DOG
the fact he retweeted this today
hi tyler
lmfaooo
- Feb 25, 2022
Lurkers man 🤦🏽♀️
NeonNigga23 ♻️Feb 25, 2022·1 replyhysteric gamerAWSF is so ass man
cmon mannn that s*** sound like the credits closing and the aspect ratio changing
Feb 25, 2022Dam.
This is one of my favorite albums of the last couple years. I get that the text about the making of the album might be offensive but this does not take away from the music or the credit he gets from me for making it.
Btw the songs he borrowed from are fcking fire.
Theophilus London did a similar thing and that’s the best music he made in his life. S*** was fire. Bebey was the name of the album.
Feb 25, 2022·editedBlueChew SeanThat's fair, but it makes that disclaimer on the cover not completely true if you gonna do so little to change a sample. Niggas gotta admit, OP do kinda got a point
idgi is he no longer the producer of the songs if he didn’t chop up the sample or whatever? ultimately the songs on igor are different experiences than the samples it pulled from
- NeonNigga23 ♻️Feb 25, 2022
as much as I like Igor, I see what op means by saying that he shouldn’t be saying “all produced and arranged by me
” that s*** lame as f*** 
in terms of whether the sampling and interpolations are lazy, I guess but it doesn’t really matter as long as the end product is good and even better if it’s effective and that’s what Igor is at the end of the day
when drake interpolated project pat on look alive, that s*** was lazy but it was hard as f*** and effective too because of the Memphis love - Feb 25, 2022
Wait until OP hears Endtroducing, Since I Left You, Paul's Botique, Madvillainy, College Dropout, etc
- Feb 25, 2022
Will Fujiwarawe don't need the government involved because we like to touch
Feb 25, 2022OP clearly doesn’t hate tyler but
I don’t get how this doesn’t fall under “arranged by”
Igor is a kind of mysterious album and all but this whole gatekeeping of music and hate towards sample culture is so restrictive
Clearly people enjoy the album and being able to curate a sound like he did and create that atmosphere is still an accomplishment imo
Also you only picked like 3 songs so this more of a hot take
Feb 25, 2022This is actually mad. Some of them really are straight rip off without many changes
- Feb 25, 2022NeonNigga23
cmon mannn that s*** sound like the credits closing and the aspect ratio changing
(thats jst me though im not big on ballads like that) - Feb 25, 2022
Posting to look thru later
- Feb 25, 2022ROBO DOG
the fact he retweeted this today
hi tyler
Yea and he started randomly tweeting about credits and samples too lmao
- Feb 25, 2022
“This is the same guy who spent years talking about bagging "models in europe" like a kid with a "girlfriend in a different school"
🤣🤣🤣
- Feb 25, 2022https://twitter.com/tylerthecreator/status/1133431505525415936choc soc
Wow lol
- Feb 25, 2022·1 reply
Stay HealthyI've been rooting for tyler for a minute but at some point a spade is a spade.
This man had the audacity to put "All songs written and produced and arranged..." when very little musical writing and arranging has happened. This sentence is a lie, straight up.
There's no flips either, to frame this as sampling most likely hurts the legal case for sampling
I THINK
He takes the main chord loop, the entire hook including the lyrics of one song and then puts the drums of the other. This is a mashup and not his production. No flips
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRf4S5_Cx20&t=19s!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxLmyISSKn4&t=4s!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m91Vq-Yd3BAGONE GONE, THANK YOU
The first part is literally the same chords and melody as this first song. And the second part is a cover with some tape fx (im not recreating the
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w8u41uxQAU!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEoDuKl_4Tw!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVInBRkoKgY
vst chain rn lol) and an arpeggiator on the most basic settings. There are some original drums but were still in mashup territoryARE WE STILL FRIENDS
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T57PF55qoI!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb76TgCUqAY
He literally is just riffing vocally & lyrically over an al green instrumental. There's a little breakdown in the middle but if he posed this as anything other than a cover in any jazz setting he'd be laughed outPUPPET
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fguP7ksUGM8!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdU7TlET5nU!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZzfUagtyPE
Same story no flips just rapping on other ppls songs or a simplified version of them at the front of the songTheres then a portion of the songs which get closer to original and can be argued as original
Igor's theme (the drums are straight ripped but that really doesn't mean much, I'll give him his 5 saturated synth notes they cool)
New magic wand ( the spoon loop is kind of a flip I guess but the music and the music is taken from a small portion of the og track, were in flip territory)A BOY IS A GUN is an obvious flip but I kind of wish he wouldnt beat a dead horse
There's then 3 songs on the album which are largely original
EARFQUAKE
I DON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE (this is the most original music on the album)
WHAT'S GOODThe dude has admitted to lifting stevie s*** so it wouldnt surprise if he's taking more that he doesnt have to credit cause you can't shouldnt be able to trademark chords.
But yea this man is a fraud maybe a little less so than awaken my love but to put the front statement on the album is an insult to all working musicians. He's doing less work than a good portion of Atlanta producers that his ignorant fans like to look down on. You can't even argue these as simple flips like ye, he's looping the part of the song that's already a loop
Facts are that saying "chords" repeatedly in conversation with no context is about 2 steps removed from "gatar". This is the same guy who spent years talking about bagging "models in europe" like a kid with a "girlfriend in a different school", we probably shouldnt be surprised by his insecure ass. He has some talent but is just a biter tbh.
this took way to f***ing long damn
tell me if I missed anyhting there's probably a bunch more on the rest of his albumsU gay af for this thread, no idea how u got 28 likes on this bullshit
Feb 25, 2022ranch dubois
- Feb 25, 2022·2 repliesblacked
U gay af for this thread, no idea how u got 28 likes on this bullshit
Using gay as an insult in a thread about Tyler the Creator
- Feb 25, 2022
LUKASI got the vinyl and he credits all the original songs tbf. I guess that contradicts his ‘all songs produced’ thing but
If he credited the originals then yeah Op how is this just not sampling. You could say they’re lazy flips but from skimming Thru it seems like he’s mashing up 3-4 different songs/samples which is Kanye science. Good post tho always appreciate beat/production breakdowns
- Feb 25, 2022
Khaled was right
Feb 25, 2022·1 reply
mr get doughHow bored are you? Part of me feels so bad for all you clowns that spend day after day posting stupid s*** like this. I just picture myself in your shoes, having no hobbies and doing nothing w your life, just scrolling through social media all day. Pathetic
We can't discuss music now lol?
- Feb 25, 2022
You niggas really be writing investigative reports just to tell us in so many words you don’t like Tyler