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  • Fargo

    Simply a religion. Not a ethnicity.

    Its both

  • Feb 2, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    it's too late

  • Feb 2, 2022
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    ooooo

    nope, it's not

    all you can say is there's no evidence it's true, but you can't say with certainty it's false

    Are you dumb.

  • Feb 2, 2022
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    ribbed

    Are you dumb.

    The answer is yes

  • Feb 2, 2022
    CGodJr

    Never heard of any of those. Good to know, I’ll do some research and follow that link you sent🤝

  • Feb 2, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    The answer is yes

    his whole account is bait, bro unironically buys nfts

  • Feb 2, 2022
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    ribbed

    Are you dumb.

    if you can explain to me how what I'm saying is wrong go for it. I am open

  • Feb 2, 2022
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    ooooo

    if you can explain to me how what I'm saying is wrong go for it. I am open

    go back to 4chan

  • Feb 2, 2022
    ribbed

    go back to 4chan

  • Feb 2, 2022
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    sarxoid

    I also love pseudoscience.

    racist to insinuate any research done by a non-white person is invalid

  • Feb 2, 2022
    lovetalkgames

    racist to insinuate any research done by a non-white person is invalid

    Word.

  • Feb 2, 2022
    SHAQUILLE

    Its an ethnicity. You can practice Judaism without being ethnically Jewish

    Semitic is an ethnicity

  • Feb 2, 2022

    Jewish = religion
    Semitic = ethnicity

  • Feb 2, 2022
    barko milicic

    Jew here! What Whoopi said isn’t as bad as people are making out to be, but it’s still misinformed. Jews were and had been viewed as a race until the Holocaust mostly as a result of their displacement throughout history up until that point. To say the Holocaust was about “man’s evil” instead of the complete extermination of Jews (and other races/ethnicities) is just factually incorrect and complete erasure to the atrocities committed unto our people.

    Didn’t she say it was “white ppl killing white ppl”? Like, it’s obvious they didn’t consider them white if they were doing all that propaganda and laws against them

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    Ay I fw both of y'all opinion so can I ask y'all a question? @Scratchin_Bandit @americana

    When y'all be saying race is a social construct wym exactly?

    Like for instance I'm a mixture of Jamaican, Chinese, Panamian and such but I consider myself black, would that mean I'm following said construct

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    Ay I fw both of y'all opinion so can I ask y'all a question? @Scratchin_Bandit @americana

    When y'all be saying race is a social construct wym exactly?

    Like for instance I'm a mixture of Jamaican, Chinese, Panamian and such but I consider myself black, would that mean I'm following said construct

    Essentially, you having black skin or other qualities that are attributed to people of African descent has, inherently, nothing to do with qualities you possess as a human with those traits within a social structure.

    These qualities attributed to you as a black person are a result of the system we exist in classifying people based on genetics and then assuming these people have inherent qualities, which is contradictory and just not scientifically correct

    The ideas of “Asian people this bad, Black people that bad, White man smart and independent etc etc etc” that exist in modern western society were specifically made to create another set of division that justified the power structure that existed at the time of their formation

    Amongst other things that are contradictory to the concept of race such as historical accuracy, interracial couples, or ethnic diversity within “races,” the concept of race was one created to enforce a hierarchy between each group and was subjectively altered by those in power to further reinforce this structure

  • Feb 2, 2022
    SegaDreamFlash

    Ay I fw both of y'all opinion so can I ask y'all a question? @Scratchin_Bandit @americana

    When y'all be saying race is a social construct wym exactly?

    Like for instance I'm a mixture of Jamaican, Chinese, Panamian and such but I consider myself black, would that mean I'm following said construct

    I mean in a sense yeah you are following that social construct, since (assuming you're from the US) the one drop rule was socially constructes based on the idea that the white race is "pure". But even if you said "oh I'm not black I'm Jamaican, Chinese and Panamanian", it wouldn't make the social construct not apply to you, since as a social construct, it's about how society at large views you. So if you pass as black, your relation to race doesn't change much in how you are treated (even though your background does have other effects).

    I'm kinda rambling here but in short since a social construct is by definition about how society at large views something, your own personal attitude has no real effect about where you fit in the definition of said social construct if that makes sense

  • Feb 2, 2022
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    bigbelts

    But it didn't tho lol what you said didn't bring any value to his question

    But the holocaust is about race. Hitler broke them down into superior (german) and inferior ( jews, gypsies, africans, slavics) races.

    I disagree. The Nazi exterminations were ethnic cleansing as well as the elimination of class enemies in a larger economic and nationalist project which is what make it distinct as fascism. I articulated how cultural supremacy and bigotry were used to obfuscate the class aspect.

    I called your statement narrow and reductive and frankly unhelpful in diagnosing the past or managing the future. There's your value. Take it or leave it.

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    Amongst other things that are contradictory to the concept of race such as historical accuracy, interracial couples, or ethnic diversity within “races,"

    This why race / ethnicity be f***in me up for real lol @Scratchin_Bandit @americana cuz like you said Scratchin I'm from the US, but like I'm a mixture of all said ethnicities, but then I got family from other countries like Jamaica that kinda look at me different and see me as a "Yankee" or some s***.

    That's not even getting into how someone from Africa would perceive me as well lol or how i look different than some who grew up in those environments

  • Feb 2, 2022

    It's both, duh. Otherwise "looking Jewish" wouldn't be a thing. It's always been an ethnicity and also a religion.

    The Holocaust was 100% about race and Whoopi was a dumbass for saying what she said.

  • Feb 2, 2022
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    Mango

    But the holocaust is about race. Hitler broke them down into superior (german) and inferior ( jews, gypsies, africans, slavics) races.

    I disagree. The Nazi exterminations were ethnic cleansing as well as the elimination of class enemies in a larger economic and nationalist project which is what make it distinct as fascism. I articulated how cultural supremacy and bigotry were used to obfuscate the class aspect.

    I called your statement narrow and reductive and frankly unhelpful in diagnosing the past or managing the future. There's your value. Take it or leave it.

    You sound like a f***ing nazi supporter.

    The holocaust was about race and a whole mess of other factors too but race was a component.

    You in here pretending like it had nothing to do with them being jewish is stupid and inaccurate depiction of the event.

  • Feb 2, 2022
    SegaDreamFlash

    Amongst other things that are contradictory to the concept of race such as historical accuracy, interracial couples, or ethnic diversity within “races,"

    This why race / ethnicity be f***in me up for real lol @Scratchin_Bandit @americana cuz like you said Scratchin I'm from the US, but like I'm a mixture of all said ethnicities, but then I got family from other countries like Jamaica that kinda look at me different and see me as a "Yankee" or some s***.

    That's not even getting into how someone from Africa would perceive me as well lol or how i look different than some who grew up in those environments

    I mean this is truly proof that race is materially irrelevant to how humans operate. There’s no inherent cultural basis for one black person to relate to the next or one white person to the next outside of the oppression and power that results from these divisions. There’s no common tradition, no common language, nothing like that

    (Obviously there is an exception for black Americans in this case)

    The expectation for you to relate to your African or Caribbean family is the result of those misconceptions. Like sure I’m from the same genetic lineage as my people in Afghanistan, but I have no way of relating with them even on the basis of skin color

  • FREE WHOOPI

  • Feb 2, 2022

    it's an ethnoreligion..

  • Feb 2, 2022
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    bigbelts

    You sound like a f***ing nazi supporter.

    The holocaust was about race and a whole mess of other factors too but race was a component.

    You in here pretending like it had nothing to do with them being jewish is stupid and inaccurate depiction of the event.

    Bro what lmao

    They don't even think it happened or say if it did it's good. Have you talked to a Nazi supporter? They aren't shy about it.

    Sorry for attempting to expand on your third grader interpretation of history.