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  • Gojira 🦖
    Jan 11, 2023
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    Birdie
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    None of this is even close to the same thing. There is direct guidance from the entire basis of the religion being the Quran to never depict the prophet it’s not open interpretation. The professor was well aware of this.

    I could care less about what Christians do with their portraits of the Jesus because it’s not offensive to me or relevant to me since I’m a Muslim. As a matter of fact my parents are arab Catholics and I’m a Muslim convert so that’s even further to the point that isn’t even a argument.

    You’re sitting here and telling me about the significance importance of this to Islamic art, Islam FORBIDS this the very existence of this is banned from the religion and antithesis of a direct Quran verse. It is not Islamic.

    The basis of the Islamic Republic in Iran is forbidden itself. Everything about it.

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jan 11, 2023

    And the Taliban.

  • Jan 11, 2023
    Gojira

    The basis of the Islamic Republic in Iran is forbidden itself. Everything about it.

    F*** the Iranian regime

    But that’s not point of this thread or relevant since it’s Sunnis involved with this story living in a western country

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    Birdie

    None of this is even close to the same thing. There is direct guidance from the entire basis of the religion being the Quran to never depict the prophet it’s not open interpretation. The professor was well aware of this.

    I could care less about what Christians do with their portraits of the Jesus because it’s not offensive to me or relevant to me since I’m a Muslim. As a matter of fact my parents are arab Catholics and I’m a Muslim convert so that’s even further to the point that isn’t even a argument.

    You’re sitting here and telling me about the significance importance of this to Islamic art, Islam FORBIDS this the very existence of this is banned from the religion and antithesis of a direct Quran verse. It is not Islamic.

    I could care less about what Christians do with their portraits of the Jesus because it’s not offensive to me or relevant to me since I’m a Muslim

    End of thread LMAO

    You only care about yourself

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    HURRY UP K DOG

    I could care less about what Christians do with their portraits of the Jesus because it’s not offensive to me or relevant to me since I’m a Muslim

    End of thread LMAO

    You only care about yourself

    had some whiplash from that part

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jan 11, 2023

    Yo man the dude from the school in my first post itt compared this to teaching good things about Hitler

  • Jan 11, 2023
    blonded

    had some whiplash from that part

    Literally the whole thread he's been saying to respect people's "offenses" and finally comes out and says its only because its HIS belief.

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    HURRY UP K DOG

    I could care less about what Christians do with their portraits of the Jesus because it’s not offensive to me or relevant to me since I’m a Muslim

    End of thread LMAO

    You only care about yourself

    Yes I only care about myself when I come from Arab Christian family and tribe from Jordan and understand how in Jordan Muslims and Christians peacefully coexist compared to here

    Good reading comprehension my guy

  • Jan 11, 2023

    Whole lotta pussies itt

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    Birdie

    Yes I only care about myself when I come from Arab Christian family and tribe from Jordan and understand how in Jordan Muslims and Christians peacefully coexist compared to here

    Good reading comprehension my guy

    I quoted exactly what you said, no mincing words

    You said you don't care about what's relevant to Christians since you are a Muslim.

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    Birdie

    None of this is even close to the same thing. There is direct guidance from the entire basis of the religion being the Quran to never depict the prophet it’s not open interpretation. The professor was well aware of this.

    I could care less about what Christians do with their portraits of the Jesus because it’s not offensive to me or relevant to me since I’m a Muslim. As a matter of fact my parents are arab Catholics and I’m a Muslim convert so that’s even further to the point that isn’t even a argument.

    You’re sitting here and telling me about the significance importance of this to Islamic art, Islam FORBIDS this the very existence of this is banned from the religion and antithesis of a direct Quran verse. It is not Islamic.

    You should exactly be offended about what Christians do because it's likewise forbidden to draw portraiture of Isa (as). So when a Non-Muslim displays you a portrait of one of our Prophets, it's okay in one case but not the other?

    And you are genuinely still seeing this from a theological perspective when this is literally a historical class You have ground if this was in the Middle East or Muslim Africa/Eastern Europe/Asia but this is a Western university with a Western lecturer of a class that is completely optional and can be replaced with another as the professor gave ample warning that such depictions may arise.

    I'm not even saying you don't have a right to be offended. Again, I was offended initially too. But I do not believe the professor deserves this level of repercussion.

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    HURRY UP K DOG

    I quoted exactly what you said, no mincing words

    You said you don't care about what's relevant to Christians since you are a Muslim.

    “You only care about yourself”

    Derived from me being indifferent to Jesus pictures are hung up in Christian households?

    He proposed that hypothetical to me thinking I’d be naturally offended by the fact Christianity has idol worship .. idc about it cause I’m a Muslim lol .. that’s selfish? It’s being tolerant and respectful that others believe in things I’m against

    You’re bad at reading

  • Jan 11, 2023
    Birdie

    “You only care about yourself”

    Derived from me being indifferent to Jesus pictures are hung up in Christian households?

    He proposed that hypothetical to me thinking I’d be naturally offended by the fact Christianity has idol worship .. idc about it cause I’m a Muslim lol .. that’s selfish? It’s being tolerant and respectful that others believe in things I’m against

    You’re bad at reading

    If you weren't a Muslim you wouldn't give a flying f*** about this.

    You are only calling it a terrible act cause it offends YOU. You literally said the beliefs of Christians aren't relevant to you since you are a Muslim. The painting is on Wikipedia, lets shutdown wikipedia too.

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    Birdie

    “You only care about yourself”

    Derived from me being indifferent to Jesus pictures are hung up in Christian households?

    He proposed that hypothetical to me thinking I’d be naturally offended by the fact Christianity has idol worship .. idc about it cause I’m a Muslim lol .. that’s selfish? It’s being tolerant and respectful that others believe in things I’m against

    You’re bad at reading

    i think the point he's getting at is you get to say "idc because i'm muslim" but others can't say "idc because i'm not muslim" since you're framing people not caring about muhammad depictions as islamophobia (ignoring how much context and warning the prof gave still)

    dont quote me back im not arguing tho

  • I hate p**** ass students who don't do anything till the actual concerning event happens lol. They stayed seated acting all mad and s***

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    ASAKI

    You should exactly be offended about what Christians do because it's likewise forbidden to draw portraiture of Isa (as). So when a Non-Muslim displays you a portrait of one of our Prophets, it's okay in one case but not the other?

    And you are genuinely still seeing this from a theological perspective when this is literally a historical class You have ground if this was in the Middle East or Muslim Africa/Eastern Europe/Asia but this is a Western university with a Western lecturer of a class that is completely optional and can be replaced with another as the professor gave ample warning that such depictions may arise.

    I'm not even saying you don't have a right to be offended. Again, I was offended initially too. But I do not believe the professor deserves this level of repercussion.

    if you understood Christianity in Islam, you’d understand that both respective people believe in Jesus as almost entirely separate person and being

    From a Muslim in perspective, how Christians view Jesus is an entirely separate sort of being with a huge divergence in agreed upon life history and attributes

    Why do you think in Jordan Lebanon Syria they have allowed churches to remain for thousands of years?

    Your argument doesn’t coincide with reality or how people view Jesus differently across Christianity and Islam

    Muslims can agree who are not extremist that Christians have right to display Jesus through their own lens and religion

    However, if you’re Muslim you’re obviously held to a different standard, not to depict Jesus/isa

    And there’s no value in this argument, because Christians have no version of Mohammad themselves or right to depict him from a religious pov

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    blonded

    i think the point he's getting at is you get to say "idc because i'm muslim" but others can't say "idc because i'm not muslim" since you're framing people not caring about muhammad depictions as islamophobia (ignoring how much context and warning the prof gave still)

    dont quote me back im not arguing tho

    This is a complete mischaracterization

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    ktt been arguing early in the morning recently

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    Birdie

    This is a complete mischaracterization

    If everyone sees it but you then maybe there's something else going on

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    blonded

    If everyone sees it but you then maybe there's something else going on

    what if everyone else is retarded

  • Jan 11, 2023
    Womanpuncher69

    what if everyone else is retarded

    That's why I said maybe lil bro

  • Womanpuncher69

    ktt been arguing early in the morning recently

    Wish it were more civil and kind

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    Wait we can say retarded now?

  • Jan 11, 2023
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    blonded

    If everyone sees it but you then maybe there's something else going on

    What if everyone else doesn’t know anything about Islam in a discussion about the depiction of its prophet or the Muslim minority experience of living in the west

    Right…

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