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  • Mar 8, 2024

    emotional complexity in modern rap doesn't come from the lyrics alone. I think a lot of it actually comes mostly from the beat and how the vocals juxtapose with the beat.

  • Mar 8, 2024

    also..

  • HURRY UP TWO

    I think he’s saying that SB isn’t emotionally complex music but there are other artist that were active and emotionally complex to pick from during that time span and these days in the mainstream there aren’t a lot of artist that differentiate between the two. That’s the “good balance”. We got the same niggas to rely on mainstream wise for the complex emotional stuff as we did 10 years ago and even then they had to make some sacrifices to make it less complex over time.

    Nobody thinks SB is complex in any way.

    Thank you lol

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    Free YoungBoy

    So Soulja boy is “emotionally complex” but Gunna isn’t? I’m not even saying Gunna is emotionally complex or whatever I’m saying he’s really nothing all that different from other rappers from back then

    Niggas didn’t even like Soulja boy back then. Yall just retroactively pretend like yall always loved him

    He's simple. Party music and a game changer for that side of rap.

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    yungcartier

    So basically a conscious rapper?

    Because there were a lot of rappers back then that aren’t that complex either on paper

    Nelly for example was just a party rapper from St. Louis who had the rags to riches come up and went Diamond without much depth in his music

    Nope

    I knew that would be what y’all took from that too lol smh

    Like I said in the op Pac, Hov, Ye, and Drake all fit the description of being emotionally complex and being able to tackle a wide range of emotional content and are far from conscious rappers

    Conscious rappers are often among the least emotionally complex because their morality and self righteousness restricts them to a narrow range of emotions.

  • Mar 8, 2024
    ragedsycokiller

    He's simple. Party music and a game changer for that side of rap.

    Ok and Gunna has more classics than him. What are we doing man lol

  • Mar 8, 2024

    Nostalgia is really king to these simpletons man

  • Mar 8, 2024
    ryuH

    Nope

    I knew that would be what y’all took from that too lol smh

    Like I said in the op Pac, Hov, Ye, and Drake all fit the description of being emotionally complex and being able to tackle a wide range of emotional content and are far from conscious rappers

    Conscious rappers are often among the least emotionally complex because their morality and self righteousness restricts them to a narrow range of emotions.

    How much does being self-critical play a role?

  • Mar 8, 2024
    ryuH

    Nope

    I knew that would be what y’all took from that too lol smh

    Like I said in the op Pac, Hov, Ye, and Drake all fit the description of being emotionally complex and being able to tackle a wide range of emotional content and are far from conscious rappers

    Conscious rappers are often among the least emotionally complex because their morality and self righteousness restricts them to a narrow range of emotions.

    I mean their are newer rappers that actually make this type of emotionally complex music but y’all dismiss it cuz of their image

    NBA Youngboy is the not the best rapper but he’s had songs about letting go of the past, being proud of his accomplishments etc.

    Rod Wave gets categorized as a heartbreak rapper but has made songs about the pitfalls of being famous, missing his girl while on the road (just to name a couple).

    Even NLE Choppa had a whole song explaining his struggles as a young father

    Like I said, level of rap skill might be different but their are rappers that are AT LEAST attempting some sort of complexity in their music

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    yall gotta understand (through other posts bro be making) that @op dont really be listening to A LOT of rappers outside of the mainstream so his view on a lot of this s*** is skewed lol.

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    yall gotta understand (through other posts bro be making) that @op dont really be listening to A LOT of rappers outside of the mainstream so his view on a lot of this s*** is skewed lol.

    Y’all funny as s*** for this narrative about me just because I give Drake credit where it’s due

    I guess listening to Gang Starr all day too commercial for y’all huh

    Edit: I’ll give you this though I fully admit I don’t check for new artist like that. Guilty as charged

  • browser

    Everyone is literally trying to be the same character to where even guys like Lucki and Earl who were unique are slowly morphing into the same character: nonchalant ambiguously successful cool guys who make most of their money outside of selling rap music lol oh and it’s over cloudy trapped out beats too no way

    Let alone the mainstream/mainstream aspiring rappers lol

    ”nonchalant ambiguously successful cool guys who make most of their money outside of selling rap music lol oh and it’s over cloudy trapped out beats too no way”

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    ryuH

    Definitely vulnerable

    YB is not an emotionally complex artist though

    Emotionally complex means being able to navigate a wide range of emotions not just pain and rage

    that’s what i was sorta saying in another thread but they just called me a hater for saying that vaguely referencing your mental health and hood struggles shouldn’t really get you classed as “introspective” or “deep”

    but hey maybe i just hold the bar too high

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    ryuH

    Y’all funny as s*** for this narrative about me just because I give Drake credit where it’s due

    I guess listening to Gang Starr all day too commercial for y’all huh

    Edit: I’ll give you this though I fully admit I don’t check for new artist like that. Guilty as charged

    I’ll give you this though I fully admit I don’t check for new artist like that. Guilty as charged

    …yeah…we know dude.

    That was the point of my comment lol

  • Mar 8, 2024
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    that’s what i was sorta saying in another thread but they just called me a hater for saying that vaguely referencing your mental health and hood struggles shouldn’t really get you classed as “introspective” or “deep”

    but hey maybe i just hold the bar too high

    count the number of positive yb songs on 1 hand maaaaybe a 2nd hand lol

  • Mar 8, 2024
    Vino

    So could the youth today be experiencing a culture that has led them into a lack of emotional complexity and lowered literacy? Resulting in the inability to engage in the same level of emotionally mature conversation someone at our age might have been having in a different time in history?

    Great post

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    Free YoungBoy

    Yeah the people who agree with you are wrong. Like what about Drake is more “emotionally complex” then Rod Wave or Gunna or whatever

    I just love that u never gave one example after browser gave you a whole verse

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    Most 90s rap was just trap/drill music with better metaphors and a more advanced vocabulary. All they rapped about was hustling and killing people literally and on the mic

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    I’ll give you this though I fully admit I don’t check for new artist like that. Guilty as charged

    …yeah…we know dude.

    That was the point of my comment lol

    Me not looking for new artists lends credence to my point really. I’m representing how the average person who is not scouring the web for new talent everyday views hip-hop. When rap was in its prime you didn’t have to look hard at all to find the qualities I’m talking about here. Sure we should commend the outliers and exceptions and highlight new talent but we shouldn’t delude ourselves into being blind to the bullshit

  • Mar 8, 2024

    Yall can keep acting like it doesnt matter but what you youngbloods got to understand bill russell voice is that this game has always been, and will always be, about lyrics.

    Even yeat had to “bare his soul” a lil more lol.

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    ryuH

    Me not looking for new artists lends credence to my point really. I’m representing how the average person who is not scouring the web for new talent everyday views hip-hop. When rap was in its prime you didn’t have to look hard at all to find the qualities I’m talking about here. Sure we should commend the outliers and exceptions and highlight new talent but we shouldn’t delude ourselves into being blind to the bullshit

    Blog era rap literally was ppl scouring the internet

  • Mar 8, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    Blog era rap literally was ppl scouring the internet

    Yeah it was and at that point in time I was definitely doing it

    How the culture is currently represented gives me no motivation to do that anymore though

  • Mar 8, 2024

    MIKE - Burning Desire out now
    AB SOUL - HERBERT out now
    AKAI SOLO - GOOD FOOTAGE (single) out now

    It’s out there in the underground, just dead in the mainstream and tik-tok verse

  • Mar 8, 2024
    ryuH

    Yeah it was and at that point in time I was definitely doing it

    How the culture is currently represented gives me no motivation to do that anymore though

    Because the outliers & standouts that try dont have the fortune of a concentrated mass audience not distracted by 1,000+ curated playlists and streaming platforms.

    I’ll agree with you there.

    The culture has been rigged

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    insertcoolnamehere

    I just love that u never gave one example after browser gave you a whole verse

    Because I’m not gonna waste my time copying and pasting a verse when let’s be real we all have our opinion

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