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  • Jan 6, 2022
    thegreatdivine

    You're comparing Hov in his 50s to Drake in his prime? How many 10 track albums did Hov drop when he was still commercially relevant?

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    ryuH

    Y’all stans be doing all these mental gymnastics and it really ain’t all that serious lol

    The fact is we just want him to make a classic album. He hasn’t done that since IYRTITL. What’s so hard to grasp about that lol

    Everything doesn't have to be a classic. He has multiple clsssics under his belt already, more than all his peers. SFG, TC, NWTS, IYRTITL are all classics imo. Views is aging really well and people are starting to label it a classic.

    Drake NEVER stopped droppong great music. Never. His albums may not be as great as they once were but he's still making some of the best music in the game and he's consistent. More to that, all his s*** ages well. I'm seeing more appreciation for projects like WATTBA/More Life and even DLDT/Scorpion/CLB now than when they dropped.

    I'd agree with you if his music had truly regressed but it really hasn't and there's nothing to suggest that him taking a break will directly result in him dropping a "classic." The moment you stop putting those ridiculous expectations on every project he drops and just appreciate them for what they are, the more you'll start to appreciate his music.

    I wish he'd disappear for a while and not drop any music because I believe a reason for all these criticisms is simply because y'all don't appreciate what he contributes anymore because y'all have gotten too much of it consistently. When he dips and y'all don't get new music for a few years and see how terrible the musical landscape is without him, some of these takes will be reversed or at the very least, be less harsh.

    Drake's mindset right now is remaining consistent and dominant and I don't blame him. He doesn't need to drop another classic. He's already solidified.

    Kanye's best albums dropped within the first 7 years of his career. Everything since then has been mid to just okay. He's still Kanye West just off those first 7 years even if he never drops anything great and Drake has dropped better music than Kanye over the last 6/7 years. He's good imo.

    I get some of y'alls criticisms and I've criticized him for the same thing but some of you take it too far and it says a lot that you only have criticisms for Drake and no it's not because you love him so much or because you see him as the GOAT of this generation. It's just easier to s*** on Drake because he's the one guy that's always around for you to do that to.

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    Can’t believe people don’t just appreciate greatness when it’s right in front of them.

    I’ve never heard a single album let alone a few songs that sound anything like CLB. Every single time Drake drops an album people want something different, and every time he switches it up with flows and production and growth in his personal outlook and view of the world and people complain.

  • Jan 6, 2022

    An 8 track Drake album would be straight

  • Jan 6, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    But the narrative when he revisited those styles on CLB (styles he created/perfected btw) was that he had done them before and needed to try something else so what is it? I've never heard Drake make songs like Get Along Better or Race My Mind or TSU or Pipe Down or IMY2 before CLB but people acted like all he did was regurgitate s*** he'd done before on that album when that's simply not true.

    The fact is that nothing Drake does at this point will ever impress any of you. He's dominated too much for far too long and he's never given you people time to miss him and therefore appreciate everything he's contributed to music. Y'all are spoiled so y'all take everything he does for granted and only complain about him not doing enough/doing what y'all want/think he should be doing. The only remedy for him now is disappearing for a few years so y'all see how terrible the rest of mainstream rap music is without him so when he returns, y'all appreciate whatever he drops next.

    Yes he has done them before and done them better so if he is going to do them it should be on par or better than previous iterations, otherwise do different things. Also you just mentioned a bunch of songs people loved from CLB that almost nobody complaining about and would you look at that, it's songs where it's either on par with other songs he has done like them or slightly different s***.

    Good direction... too bad they are on the same album with bunch of songs not as notable, on an album that has no general direction or theme or cohesion, with questionable album sequencing, regurgitated subject matter, etc, etc. It's not just one thing. It's everything I mentioned combined.

    Actual fact is that Drake can still improve but he hasn't. His domination is probably a major factor in him not caring to and another major factor is him never given us time to miss him like you said because then he would not only have a lot of time to actually improve and create higher quality music but he would also not release so much music therefore most of it wouldn't sound the same in varying ways.

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    rozco

    Can’t believe people don’t just appreciate greatness when it’s right in front of them.

    I’ve never heard a single album let alone a few songs that sound anything like CLB. Every single time Drake drops an album people want something different, and every time he switches it up with flows and production and growth in his personal outlook and view of the world and people complain.

    This is part of my point. He's just at the point of his career now when nothing he does will ever be seen as good enough or appreciated, regardless of how great it is because people are sick of him. Even those claiming to be his biggest fans.

    It'd be great if he were willing to disappear for a few years but he doesn't want to do that and I can't blame him if he still wants to keep this s*** going because he's on the greatest run in rap history. I wouldn't wanna stop either if I were him.

    But it says a lot that overtime, all his projects get appreciated more and they age well. That says a lot about the kind of artist he is but folks out here are still waiting for an instant classic and he will never give them that.

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    ryuH

    The funniest s*** about y’all sack jugglers defending so hard is y’all defending against the very niggas who wanna see this nigga win the most lol

    We WANT this nigga to drop a classic worthy of his talent that shows the world what he’s capable of but he just won’t do it and we have no choice but to call a spade a spade

    Personally as much as I love Kendrick Kanye Tyler etc Im tired of them getting all the album artist praise. I really would love to see Drake have an acclaimed masterpiece. S*** would look good on the boy. But I doubt he’ll ever do it with y’all dutifull stans around always there to support anything he drops regardless of quality 😂

    Drake has never gotten critical acclaim like that lol.

  • Skateboard J

    Drake has never gotten critical acclaim like that lol.

    They're mad he hasn't given them their 95% metacritic rap album forgetting that even his best albums don't have an 80% rating on metacritic lol.

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    But yeah that’s why I said earlier I think he should make an album where he panders to critics and the artsy type niggas. It would benefit him rn.

  • Jan 6, 2022
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    Klaus

    Yes he has done them before and done them better so if he is going to do them it should be on par or better than previous iterations, otherwise do different things. Also you just mentioned a bunch of songs people loved from CLB that almost nobody complaining about and would you look at that, it's songs where it's either on par with other songs he has done like them or slightly different s***.

    Good direction... too bad they are on the same album with bunch of songs not as notable, on an album that has no general direction or theme or cohesion, with questionable album sequencing, regurgitated subject matter, etc, etc. It's not just one thing. It's everything I mentioned combined.

    Actual fact is that Drake can still improve but he hasn't. His domination is probably a major factor in him not caring to and another major factor is him never given us time to miss him like you said because then he would not only have a lot of time to actually improve and create higher quality music but he would also not release so much music therefore most of it wouldn't sound the same in varying ways.

    Yeah and y'all need to stop acting like his career is over or something. I don't expect someone like Kanye or Hov to still be dropping albums as great as their best because they don't have to do that for me to appreciate what they're giving at this stage of their careers and that's part of the problem with some of you.

    Anything not on par or better than his best is automatically trash to y'all but that's not true. Music quality isn't a binary function. It can be more than just great or bad.

    Like I said, at this point in Drake's career, you'll never appreciate anything he does if you keep thinking he'll drop a flawless album or some album that'll blow your mind and sound unlike anything he's ever done before. Those are unrealistic expectations.

    The mindset to always have when going into new music from established legends is an open mind. Don't block your head to what you believe they should be doing and appreciate whatever it is they give you for what it is. Sure, if something is wack, it's wack, but Drake doesn't make wack music. He never has. At worst, he's made music that's a step lower than his best which is still very good music but y'all never wanna see that.

  • Skateboard J

    But yeah that’s why I said earlier I think he should make an album where he panders to critics and the artsy type niggas. It would benefit him rn.

    It won't matter. They'll still criticize his ass and that's simply not who he is as an artist.

  • Jan 6, 2022
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    thegreatdivine

    This is part of my point. He's just at the point of his career now when nothing he does will ever be seen as good enough or appreciated, regardless of how great it is because people are sick of him. Even those claiming to be his biggest fans.

    It'd be great if he were willing to disappear for a few years but he doesn't want to do that and I can't blame him if he still wants to keep this s*** going because he's on the greatest run in rap history. I wouldn't wanna stop either if I were him.

    But it says a lot that overtime, all his projects get appreciated more and they age well. That says a lot about the kind of artist he is but folks out here are still waiting for an instant classic and he will never give them that.

    Well said

    I think if he was different type of artist he would have taken a hiatus a while ago, but he’s addicted to this run and you can’t blame him.

    I do think CLB will eventually be viewed by most people as a classic just like Views is becoming, and that it will be seen as the beginning of the next stage of his career. He’s never done an album that combines rapping and singing so seamlessly on every single song, and it male feature heavy approach is an interesting contrast with the subject matter. The cover is revolutionary imo, the beats are so good it’s hard to wrap your head around. And the way he released it was such a slap in the face to anyone vying for the throne.

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    ryuH

    The funniest s*** about y’all sack jugglers defending so hard is y’all defending against the very niggas who wanna see this nigga win the most lol

    We WANT this nigga to drop a classic worthy of his talent that shows the world what he’s capable of but he just won’t do it and we have no choice but to call a spade a spade

    Personally as much as I love Kendrick Kanye Tyler etc Im tired of them getting all the album artist praise. I really would love to see Drake have an acclaimed masterpiece. S*** would look good on the boy. But I doubt he’ll ever do it with y’all dutifull stans around always there to support anything he drops regardless of quality 😂

    People have no rebuttal to this.

    We criticize/critique him because we KNOW what he is capable of and we wanna see him get the critical accolades that Kenny/Cole/etc gets

    But when super fans eat up everything he does, there's no reason for him to grow.

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    rozco

    Well said

    I think if he was different type of artist he would have taken a hiatus a while ago, but he’s addicted to this run and you can’t blame him.

    I do think CLB will eventually be viewed by most people as a classic just like Views is becoming, and that it will be seen as the beginning of the next stage of his career. He’s never done an album that combines rapping and singing so seamlessly on every single song, and it male feature heavy approach is an interesting contrast with the subject matter. The cover is revolutionary imo, the beats are so good it’s hard to wrap your head around. And the way he released it was such a slap in the face to anyone vying for the throne.

    "I do think CLB will eventually be viewed by most people as a classic"

    So you're saying CLB will eventually be viewed on the same level as a Reasonable Doubt, Ready To Die, Illmatic, Blueprint, MBDTF, TPAB, etc?

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    DaeHan

    "I do think CLB will eventually be viewed by most people as a classic"

    So you're saying CLB will eventually be viewed on the same level as a Reasonable Doubt, Ready To Die, Illmatic, Blueprint, MBDTF, TPAB, etc?

    You didn’t even quote dudes full sentence then proceeded to put words in his mouth

  • DaeHan

    People have no rebuttal to this.

    We criticize/critique him because we KNOW what he is capable of and we wanna see him get the critical accolades that Kenny/Cole/etc gets

    But when super fans eat up everything he does, there's no reason for him to grow.

    Drake has NEVER been a critical darling. Never. If that's what you're waiting for, you'll he waiting forever. He won't he giving you albums that get 90% on metacritic, regardless of how good they are. Critics simply have never given him that.

    Shouldn't great music be all that matters? What's with this sudden need to see him get his d*** sucked by critics like that had ever mattered or affected his impact and dominance?

  • Jan 6, 2022
    A E M 7

    The crazy thing about all of this is, Drake is so big that he CAN still make a 12-13 track cohesive and concise album nowadays and it will still sell a f***ing ton just like any of his previous albums. It's not like any of his fans is gonna turn on him if he does it. He wouldn't lose one single fan if he did it.

    I just think at this point in his career, he doesn't want to go down that road right now. Maybe when he gets older and slows down.

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    A E M 7

    The crazy thing about all of this is, Drake is so big that he CAN still make a 12-13 track cohesive and concise album nowadays and it will still sell a f***ing ton just like any of his previous albums. It's not like any of his fans is gonna turn on him if he does it. He wouldn't lose one single fan if he did it.

    I just think at this point in his career, he doesn't want to go down that road right now. Maybe when he gets older and slows down.

    There's also this. Maybe he just doesn't want to make that kind of album at this point in his career and that's okay, too.

  • Jan 6, 2022
    DaeHan

    People have no rebuttal to this.

    We criticize/critique him because we KNOW what he is capable of and we wanna see him get the critical accolades that Kenny/Cole/etc gets

    But when super fans eat up everything he does, there's no reason for him to grow.

    lol cole has less critical accolades than Drake has ,what are you smoking

  • thegreatdivine

    There's also this. Maybe he just doesn't want to make that kind of album at this point in his career and that's okay, too.

    The only rapper from Drake's generation with more critical acclaim than Drake is Kendrick. Big Sean, Wale, Big KRIT, name 'em, Drake has more acclaim and he isn't even a critic darling.

  • Jan 6, 2022

    No

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    @ryuH Glad you deleted that pretentious ass post

  • Jan 6, 2022
    Skateboard J

    @ryuH Glad you deleted that pretentious ass post

    Take yo ass to sleep 😂

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    Skateboard J

    @ryuH Glad you deleted that pretentious ass post

    What post?