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  • Apr 22, 2021
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    Sand Man

    According to Wikipedia 🧢

    Oh you don’t believe in science, huh

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    DVLPR

    Can you give me an example of an economic truth/fact?

    Yea man read some marx

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    BillyShears

    Oh you don’t believe in science, huh

    I am a scientist.

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    Sand Man

    I am a scientist.

    And you don’t believe in the social sciences?

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    BillyShears

    And you don’t believe in the social sciences?

    I don’t believe in the term "social science."

  • Apr 22, 2021
    DVLPR

    Who are braindead, people who believe economics is a science or people who believe it’s an ideology?

    I sentence you to four years of cock and ball torture.

  • Apr 22, 2021
    Sand Man

    I don’t believe in the term "social science."


    You as well.

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    Synopsis

    Yea man read some marx

    Didn’t marx said that economics is pretty much capitalist ideology?

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    DVLPR

    Didn’t marx said that economics is pretty much capitalist ideology?

    What

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    Synopsis

    What

    I’m reading this Microeconomics book. It’s what it says. It might be biased or I might be misinterpreting.

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    DVLPR

    I’m reading this Microeconomics book. It’s what it says. It might be biased or I might be misinterpreting.

    Crying.

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    Sand Man

    Crying.

    Look this is what it says:

    “ Marx argued that cultural and intellectual factors were not the cause of historical change; rather, it was the material facts of history—the development of economic life—that provided the basis for science, religion, philosophy and other “mental” conceptions. Beyond this, he had a particular theory of economic development, in which all known societies, beyond the most primitive, are divided into a large class that produces most of the wealth through its labor and a small class that commands a “surplus” portion of that wealth for its own use—the exploited and the exploiters. Very simply put, the primacy of economic life over the life of ideas translates into the claim that each class is likely to hold beliefs that justify its particular interests. Each will see its own particular class interest as universal, the ideal that all would agree on if they only understood. He attached the word “ideology” to this interest-based set of beliefs. For Marx, the notion that God created the world pretty much as we find it was part of the ideology of the Middle Ages of European Christendom. It was believed by the ruling orders because it justified their position of wealth and power vis-a-vis the peasants under their command. When the peasants gained an awareness of their very different interests, they rejected this theology and replaced it with another, under which a social upheaval was required to achieve a second coming of Christ. Similarly, the wealthiest elites in the modern capitalist order adhere to an ideology in which making profits through business investment is natural and desirable; they believe this because it is in their interest to do so. (In other words, economics is capitalist ideology!)”

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    DVLPR

    I’m reading this Microeconomics book. It’s what it says. It might be biased or I might be misinterpreting.

    What's the quote

  • Apr 22, 2021
    Synopsis

    What's the quote

    Read my post above.

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    CrimsonArk

    It’s a pseudo-science with unreliable application backed up with often f***ed up ideologies.

    It’s basically magic crystals level.

    ???? Really posted this

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    DVLPR

    Look this is what it says:

    “ Marx argued that cultural and intellectual factors were not the cause of historical change; rather, it was the material facts of history—the development of economic life—that provided the basis for science, religion, philosophy and other “mental” conceptions. Beyond this, he had a particular theory of economic development, in which all known societies, beyond the most primitive, are divided into a large class that produces most of the wealth through its labor and a small class that commands a “surplus” portion of that wealth for its own use—the exploited and the exploiters. Very simply put, the primacy of economic life over the life of ideas translates into the claim that each class is likely to hold beliefs that justify its particular interests. Each will see its own particular class interest as universal, the ideal that all would agree on if they only understood. He attached the word “ideology” to this interest-based set of beliefs. For Marx, the notion that God created the world pretty much as we find it was part of the ideology of the Middle Ages of European Christendom. It was believed by the ruling orders because it justified their position of wealth and power vis-a-vis the peasants under their command. When the peasants gained an awareness of their very different interests, they rejected this theology and replaced it with another, under which a social upheaval was required to achieve a second coming of Christ. Similarly, the wealthiest elites in the modern capitalist order adhere to an ideology in which making profits through business investment is natural and desirable; they believe this because it is in their interest to do so. (In other words, economics is capitalist ideology!)”

    Too many big words chief.

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    DVLPR

    Science is about getting closer and closer to the truth. We know more about chemistry today than we did 50 years ago.

    I can easily give you a chemistry fact, can you give me a economic fact?

    Science is about using the scientific method to understand or explain phenomena

    By your definition aspects of psychology arent sciences

    As well as even physics

  • Apr 22, 2021
    Sand Man

    Too many big words chief.

    “the wealthiest elites in the modern capitalist order adhere to an ideology in which making profits through business investment is natural and desirable; they believe this because it is in their interest to do so. (In other words, economics is capitalist ideology!)”

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    KuntaKinte

    Science is about using the scientific method to understand or explain phenomena

    By your definition aspects of psychology arent sciences

    As well as even physics

    Yes?

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    KuntaKinte

    Science is about using the scientific method to understand or explain phenomena

    By your definition aspects of psychology arent sciences

    As well as even physics

    The overall goal is to get closer to the truth tho. Both definitions are correct.

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    DVLPR

    Yes?

    You do realize youre just making a semantic argument to debase the study of economics.

    Im not even an economics major and I find this baffling.

    You do realize that many aspects of medicine arent sciencr by your definition

    Science is determined by the use of the Scientific process not the result.

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    DVLPR

    The overall goal is to get closer to the truth tho. Both definitions are correct.

    You state that in a pointed way as if Economics does not seek to create models to predict outcomes

    If this is your working definition than what is your contention.

    "I cant name one economics fact"

    How does that disqualify economics as a science.

  • Apr 22, 2021
    Cant pick

    yeah i think

  • Apr 22, 2021
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    KuntaKinte

    You do realize youre just making a semantic argument to debase the study of economics.

    Im not even an economics major and I find this baffling.

    You do realize that many aspects of medicine arent sciencr by your definition

    Science is determined by the use of the Scientific process not the result.

    Medicine is an applied science, not a hard science. Would you say economics is an applied science?

  • Apr 22, 2021
    DVLPR

    Medicine is an applied science, not a hard science. Would you say economics is an applied science?

    Economics is a social science

    These are all fields of science

    And hard science is some stemcell dweeb term.

    Natural, Social, and Applied sciences are terms people who arent d***heads use