The one ur defending pedos in

Yes.

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Eminem is one of the most successful, respected rappers in history. There is nothing ktt can do to debate this your favorite rapper would say the same. Not as amazing as he was most agree on but still doing the type of numbers hes doing almost 30 years later is astounding.

He ran s*** for a long time, he got some classics and he influenced a lot of people. I don't really see why he shouldn't be mentioned as someone important in the genre.
And that's coming from someone who never really listened to his s*** and I haven't even heard his last 3-4 albums. But you can't ignore his past just because his recent content has been bad.

I don’t hate him because he’s white at all? Why do you think that? I even said I consider his first 3 albums classic I just don’t think he has had a big influence on today’s rap like everyone says he has so I think he is over rated

I think Jay is perfectly rated and I could see how some people think 2pac is overrated too and I kinda agree to an extent

Garbage

Easily

Over 70% of his catalog is trash at this point
“Had a spark when he started but now he’s just garbage”

Yeah but we didn't need this thread

if anything he's underrated these days considering he has like two bad albums in his discography (encore and revival) and a bunch of mediocre ones that still have their fair share of great songs on them. plenty of rappers get by with worse hit to miss ratios, i don't see why eminem deserves to be raked over the coals for it just because a bunch of self hating white kids are embarrassed they used to only listen to him.

What does influence has to do with anything? Just because Eminems content doesn't speak to everyone doesn't make it less great.

And btw, influence is one of the most stupid s*** to cite considering labels are the ones trying to recreate big artists and control the sound

literally

love him or hate him eminem has influenced a good 85% of the biggest rappers to an extent

That verse on the new Cordae album was TERRIBLE

It was, but his verse on walkthrough was amazing but you aint ready for that discussion.

I'm just glad my goat never dropped a song more embarrassing than Fack.

Ghetto Techno?

He's properly rated

Hyped to the high heavens by non rap fans and people overseas.

But underrated by younger rap fans, critics, and hipsters.

He's done enough to be a legend and top 10 DOA though.

Recovery probably the most underrated album OAT.

tbh his bad albums get panned by many people so I wouldn't say that. In fact, his classics get a bit of unfair shat because of the trash he released afterwards imo. If we're going by sales he's definitely overrated tho.

i think a lot of it has to do with time. a lot of kids and younger adults these days weren’t even around or conscience enough to really remember his run (even 20-21 year olds are too young to remember imo - 8 mile came out in 2002)

he’s definitely legendary and cemented in hip hop history

now he just raps for fun and because he likes to do it. i don’t think todays demographic (young people) are his target audience anyway

i’m not a huge em fan (anymore) but i don’t hate the guy at all.

Short answer ? Yes

Long answer ? Absolutely yes

Still goated for being the only white rapper besides jack harlow

I want to say no, but given the fact that almost none of his albums we call classics hold up if you weren’t, like, 12 when they came out….

blueprint 3 entirely

No that would be Kendrick Lamar or playboi Carti.