Already had a pretty good case tbh but yeah this definately cemented him as top 5, we never seen anything like him before

The consistently high album quality that rivals the likes of a Kanye, the high skill level of an Em or a Nas, the subject matter and aggressiveness of Pac, the ability to hop into flows that are just as slick as a Jay or Big or Snoop, the ability to use his voice in unique ways like 3 stacks or Bone Thugs, various influences and homages to west coast styles of rap....

Kendrick is DIFFERENT different

he def moved up on alot of peoples all time list
drak fs went down alot of ppl all time list

insane power move

Top 5 cemented all time. I can't be mad at him being named #1 though.

Imma need one more classic from him, then he can be goat to me

He already was lol, maybe not #1 thats fair but niggas talking about hes entering top 10 like knock it off.

Dot is top 5 of all time

I mean, he's a all-time great.

But not the GOAT.

This gen though?

Been cemented after "TPAB" tbh.

He makes much better albums.

Nas beat selection was always a minus as well

I feel like the stakes of this beef are definitive top 10, he outperformed my expectations by a good amount, but the dust hasn’t settled really

-Better hit maker
-Better production
-More consistent at making albums, we ignore Nas has some albums that aren’t his strongest points
-Better and more varied flow

Kendrick up rn but no he really Kawhi Leonard

Ya gonna take that as disrespect but its really not

People have different reasons for their goat arguments but if you are strictly talking talent, skillset, and catalog I don't think there are many rappers even close

If you are having the IMPACT debate though I think there are a lot of rappers that clear him, the usual suspects such as Jay, Nas, Pac, Weezy, Ye, even Drake impact wise

As much as I’m impressed by this I need one more classic album to entrain the idea that he’s top 5

It's really hard to compare artists across generations. Artists like Tupac, Wayne, Eminem paved the way for there to be a Kendrick. Different eras come with different landscapes

I think Kendrick is undeniably the goat of his generation now, but I'll never say he's better than Nas, Hov, Biggie, or any of these rappers. But since I grew up in this era he is MY goat

I won’t say he’s better than Hov and I respect not saying he’s better than Nas but he is better than Biggie

Yeah him being from Compton and actually being connected with culture and being conscious is a huge plus on his goat case too, thx for pointing that out

To me that's like an old head saying Nas doesn't do anything better than Rakim lol

Kendrick is the evolution of what Nas does imo

we are going to do a kendrick vz pac match in this forum in the next week. date tbd.

he's gone up in my estimate for sure and I already thought very very highly of him

Hard to make a top 5 list now without him on it. The beef was the one thing that people used as a knock on him but clearly we see how that went

Dont think many people feel this way
I had drake in my top10 and i will still have him

I knew he was never going to win against ken but i was curious if he was going to put a decent fight at least and he did. His personality mostly lost him the beef in the eyes of the casual rap fans.

And for drake stans nothjng changed
And for his haters they never even had him in their top10s

So sure it causes his legacy and could be a great opportunity for him to win this beef but again i dont think he ever had a chance but he is still a great artists with too many great songs

And all that white jokes s*** aside its horseshit to say this man doesnt know hiphop culture . Man started with Bun B features

Pac is the greatest rapper of all time

He in that conversation 100%

Best pac album is not better than any ken album

i think everyone had them in their top 10 tho

kenny moved up in top 2-5

drake fell into lower 7-10

Kawhi always out but every time he get a full post season in he get a chip

As a huge Drake fan he’s better than Drake that’s for sure