streaming and stan culture made this type of s*** not even matter

You’re a joke lol. I just proved to you that using billboard and RIAA is not the end all be all

According to your logic, I Gotta feeling is a bigger song than Billie Jean

Bigger is objective
Culturally relevant is subjective and can be s*** like the influence of the song, how well it aged, how the career trajectory of that artist turned out etc etc

Like I gotta feeling may well be objectively a bigger song than Billie Jean
But Billie Jean is clearly more culturally important because the song is great because it aged well because it’s an MJ song etc etc

Yall arguing about different things and semantics in this thread lol. Records are easier to break but they are easier to lose now. It's a double edge sword. You got to measure by longetivity now instead of the award itself. Kinda like the wwe championship.

Anyone can cop it, but not everyone can hold it

Sure but blinding lights isn’t one of them

I gotta feeling some more than Billie Jean, does that make it a bigger song?

fair enuf

facts blinding light is a smash but being #1 isn’t everything

I’m now arguing if blinding lights is bigger than ignition remix

Using safes logic I GOTTA FEELING IS BIGGER THAN BILLIE JEAN

Noooo no no nba is back from allstar break all you stat guys go talk about this in sport section 🗣 !!!

Yea? I think everyone has heard I got a feeling once and know what it is as much as Billie jean

Nah I disagree there. A sensation in the time that doesn't have much cultural impact in the long run isn't necessarily bigger. Are people going to recognize these songs decades from now? Some iconic songs from the past weren't huge sellers at the time and there are #1s from the 60s and 70s that are largely forgotten about.

It requires a deeper cultural a***ysis than just looking at numbers

Agree I just think it’s a weird example to have used to argue this point

Why? If we’re JUST talking about size of the song why shouldn’t song sales combined w chart history be the be all end all

How can we ever claim to be able to tell better than numbers how popular a song is in Germany or Ghana or Mexico

No response? You don’t like to admit you may have spoke too soon? “According to your logic I gotta feeling is bigger than Billie Jean”

I actually think it is bigger than Billie Jean from what i see. Is it a better song? of course not.

but i also didnt live thru when the song got popular. I didn’t live through the heights of MJ. and obviously MJ is bigger than BEP

It definitely did in the current era we're in, we had rappers bundle there way to #1 hits and drop 20 remixes to sustain their streaming numbers. Hell, we had a disney star get the #1 spot on her debut song. Records get broken almost every month nowadays.

I literally responded right below I just cbf having this conversation w you

I gotta feeling could be objectively bigger than Billie jean
You gotta take into account differences in consumption though - I gotta feeling could be purchased as an individual track upon release Billie jean not so easily
Considering thriller is the best selling album ever it’s hard to really say that I gotta feeling is definitively bigger

But regardless Billie jean is clearly the more culturally relevant song regardless of if it was the BIGGER song

Billie Jean is from an album in the 80s thats 66x platinum

Back flipping ass mofo talking about cultural relevance mfer Billie Jean a way bigger song than I gotta feeling u just don’t want to swallow ur words and admit that BILLBOARD AINT THE END ALL BE ALL

I mean historically not all sales numbers are reliable, at least from a long while back.

The way a song is embedded in wider culture through its use in movies/tv or how often it's played in functions are not easily measurable.

You could try surveying members of the public, I'm not sure. Alice raises a good example of a song like Where is My Mind. So many indie local acts might cover it but that's not reflected in charts. I think real cultural a***ysis is not so simple.

perfect song