frenchpress

4y

the rich/white thing ain't too blatantly false

those schools def have a lot of rich students. they're generally diverse enough, still w/ lower representation of black students but those schools try pretty hard to achieve diversity for good reasons and for image reasons

but the wealth is pretty common there, except it isn't just the white ppl who are wealthy

and it's also probably true that some of the smartest kids aren't there and in their place are rich kids instead. however it's by no means a sham; most there will be smart or very smart

black hedi slimane

4y

yea but ppl will make a meme out of it

lmaooo wild guess but starting to wonder if op was a lag kid

NiceLikeChrist

4y

whats a lag kid?

black hedi slimane

4y

was wondering if u went to laguardia

NiceLikeChrist

4y

you from NYC? I went to bronx science tho

CLB Fractions

4y

some "bad schools" get more funding and resources than some "good schools" part of it is cultural. You could be at that "good school" and still score the same.

frenchpress

4y

variation btwn 2 4.0 students is on the school, so it could be massive and it could be tiny, but variation is absolutely there and it isn't accurate to categorize it as small

CLB Fractions

4y

"The variation of two 4.0 students isn’t massive"

i highly disagree two 4.0 from different highschool could mean way different things especially since grade inflation is so rampant. you can go to one school and get a 3.5 and be in the middle but at another a 4.0 and be a top student

I agree 30 and 33 on act is minimal

canada also has less people and more standardized highschool grading compred to usa.

Maartins

4y

It is pretty small in my opinion

We can only measure this by looking at the “top” schools of other countries where standardized testing isn’t used

A 4.0 student has the ethic and base level intelligence to always adapt well to a “top” school

CLB Fractions

4y

this 4.0 variation is huge.

Maartins

4y

It’s not that huge cmon on man.

Maartins

4y

Well disagree to agree then

And yest you’re right canadian highschools are way more standardized and on AVERAGE better than US highschools, i say on average because US highschools like everything about America is extremely polarized. In the best school districts in America the kids there are among the “brightest” or rather best advantaged/equipped than all other students in the world.

I support standardization of American highschools as well as equalization and increase in funding

CLB Fractions

4y

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1032183/no-wonder-young-americans-feel-so-important-when-half-of-them-finish-high-school-as-a-students/amp/

do you really believe that if u are a 4.0 at one school that means u would be 4.0 at another?

some schools have a smarter on average student body so u would be competing against better students etc. I dont think SAT/ACT should be only thing used but they are a good way to tell which schools have heavy grade inflation etc.

Maartins

4y

Last I checked US highschools arent graded on a curve so the average intelligence of yr fellow student doesn’t matter

Maybe some schools do this but not to my knowledge. To the extent inflation and deflation happens it’s usually based on the stringency of grading criteria

But again this can be addressed with more active standardization, which us public schools already are to an extent imo.

The main differences are always disproportionately on the socio economic terms. Teacher-student ratio, teacher salary, facility, funding, economic security of the student body etc

CLB Fractions

4y

some schools grade easier and have easier assignments.

but yea standardization is needed if we want to get rid of SAT/ACT but schools may then still develop their own test.

would you be against doing nationwide finals? so everyone in precalc does the same precalc final etc.

black hedi slimane

4y

yea i went to school out in far rock but i was all over queens during my childhood

that was a magnet school right like on some specialized s***? i was @ scholars i think it was same vibes

Maartins

4y

I mean sure why not

I think your overstating alot of this

There is only so much precalc material from textbooks that can be taught to a 16-17 yr old. It’s not THAT decentralized

Maartins

4y

No not really

The US higher ed system is f***ed and a pipeline for elitism and nepotism, the smartest kids aren’t attending ivy leagues, the richest and whitest are

We should stop funding these private schools, increase funding for flagship state unis and state colleges and then make tuition free

The top schools will still naturally arise based on gpa requirements and research and what not.

What we don’t need is what we currently have which is this unnecessaryily difficult system that advantages the rich and privileged

Legendary

4y

It’s much easier for rich people to fake GPAs than ACT scores since private schools can give you high grades but tests are standardized across country and are relatively hard to fake

CLB Fractions

4y

I agree schools (non trade highschools) should be more standardized in terms of curriculum.

but more importantly if we were to move away from SAT/ACT
we would need standardized grading of assignments/school tests quizzes extra credit etc.

orangejuice

4y

I personally think we should have a standardized curriculum across the USA and have national tests in each subject, moving away from the ACT/SAT.

Realistically, this won't happen because individual states would throw a hissy fit about how they wish to teach things like the Civil War as "The War of Northern Aggression" (looking at you Texas)