"This nigga spitting!"

Is he wrong tho? Especially if you’ve ever lived in the hood. :word:

i don't victim blame niggas in a system set up for us to fail :word:

always thought that ending skit was corny.

Well a couple things

Canada's most prestigious universities are nowhere near America's, hard to even compare the two
Canada is also a lot smaller, so just by virtue of that, there are hundreds of thousands more people competing to get into the US top schools

If you don't have great grades or test scores, you can still make it in a state school, which are often well respected and have large alumni bodies, but the top ranked schools are supercompetitive. Idk what the solution really is, because adding more colleges wouldn't really fix it, the reputation of the school is the reason the schools are competitive and those sorts of reputations take decades, even centuries to build.

Uoft is a top 20 school in the world in all rankings

Mcgill and UBC are top 50

Mcmaster usually in the top 100, pretty good for a small country

Ivy leagues aren’t restrictive to prevent quality of output or learning, they’re restrictive to maintain exclusivity for their 1 percenter student body and brand

"Standardized testing means they give every person who signs up the same test. And if they have 100 spots open for the freshman class, the first spot goes to whoever got the highest score, then the second highest score, all the way down to the 100th highest score. The only criteria for admission is this single test score."

This... is the complete opposite of racism? There's zero consideration for race at all; whoever does the best gets the admission. Of course some liberal morons would paradoxically argue that race-based admissions and lowered standards for underperforming racial demographics is somehow the 'not racist' option compared to raw meritocracy without race being considered at all -- the irony flying right over their heads.

I think it was spot on.

The system ain’t fair but it’s 2021. There’s so many resources at our fingertips now. All it takes is effort.

I think I read a while back that black IMMIGRANTS do better than black Americans too despite the same system.

See now you're playing into the model minority myth with that one lol.

"despite the same system"

nigga, one of those two groups weren't subjected to the same system for years.

black immigrants do better than Black Americans but black immigrants that just came here don't deal with the systemic failures in this country that we've been dealt with through decades and decades of. When people bring up that stat they often leave out context.

They do better because there is a higher emphasis on studies in our families. I am from India and can confirm that, I have been preparing for an exam for admission to medical college since the last 2 years and the exam is in 3 months. There are tougher exams for which parents get their children admitted into tutoring institutes upto 5 years prior to the exam. I have noticed that in America, less emphasis is given on studies comparatively and the tests you give are easier too. I don't even have a phone to prevent distractions. In Asia, parents put a huge emphasis on studies and our college entrance tests are quite difficult, and for them we have to learn extra- sometimes we have to learn stuff that is in the college curriculum itself as well.
This attitude carries over to those who leave the country as well cause they generally attain success after studying a lot so they pass on this message to their kids as well.

bc i went to the middle school i didn’t have to take the test

automatically got into the specialized hs since it was the same school/building essentially

I’ve been told that exams in Singapore and South Korea are f***ing crazy

Yup. China too.

Aren’t most black immigrants coming from countries that still suffer from the adverse effects of colonialism?

Yes.

What does that have to do with the fact that most black immigrants also get preferential treatment and benefits and advantages from America that Most African Americans don't get? lol.

You're trying to group too much of Asia together. Asian Immigrants aren't just Chinese, Korean, Indian, Japanese. It's a whole continent of people. Sure, we can likely safely say that the culture in this four big countries has a high emphasis on studies, ect, but 'Asian' people consist of more than just those big four.

I think there is value to it to understand and maintain a certain proficiency in key curricular things. Like... whether or not you can demonstrate that you know fundamental concepts in math translates well to a standardized test.

There is definitely way too much importance put on it, though. It makes for lazy teachers that “teach to the test” and offers a very incomplete and flawed benchmark of a student’s education.

Can you provide examples of these benefits and preferential treatment that black immigrants receive that most African Americans dont?

It’s not like America only hates African Americans. They hate all black people lol.

honestly i dont know any better standard

like clearly it doesnt capture all or even most of kids potential but its a pretty good guess?

the real problem is financial incentives to politicians to not restructure the work force in order to have better wealth distribution which would actually probably result in increased GDP overall if kids had the financial incentive to do what they're somewhat passionate about and barriers to entry for markets and educatino werent that high

but nah standardised testing probably isnt the devil

yes

i mean there are absolutely backdoor ways to get into these things tho

some of them require money like aplying to an easier degree and then transferring

also a certain proportion of the population has to do jobs that we dont like to do, problem is they arent being adequately compensated.

but we cant have all doctors and with std testing we get a general idea of who is best suited for important professions (in theory)

i think what needs to happen is to have more subjects that test how quick a person learns on the spot as another measure, right now too much can be done with people memorising just the bare essentials to do well in certain things and be absolutely lacking in empathy, social skills or ability to actually learn on the spot

make them draw something, teach them some techniques and se how well the person can apply that to their drawing minutes later

Between African Americans and Africans I mean, which one actually dealt with the mental and economical effects of Jim Crow?

Between African Americans and Africans I mean, which one actually dealt with the mental and economical effects of the GI Bill?

Between African Americans and Africans I mean, which one actually dealt with the mental and economical effects of Black Wall Street riots in Tulsa?

Coming into a place and not having those kind of generational traumas within a land that has personally done you and your "native born" family wrong through decades and decades, is an advantage whether you wanna admit it or not. Natively America blacks dealt (and still deal) with the major burden of America's slavery. African immigrants don't. That's a fact.

India and China constitute more than half of Asia's population and after Mexico these 2 countries are the places from where most of the immigrants belong to in the USA, I ofcourse wasn't talking about all of asia but most of it.

There is also the discussion of whether immigrants have been taking more advantage of things like affirmative action and resources because of which that African Americans aren't.

chron.com/opinion/outlook/article/Page-Blacks-from-Africa-as-America-s-true-model-1793671.php

Immigrants, who make up 13 percent of the nation's college-age black population, account for more than a quarter of black students at Ivy League and other elite universities, according to the study of 28 selective colleges and universities. The authors of the study, published recently in the American Journal of Education, included Douglas S. Massey of Princeton University and Camille Z. Charles of the University of Pennsylvania. The proportion of immigrants was higher at private institutions, 28.8 percent, than at the public ones, where they comprised 23.1 percent of enrollment.

Accounting for more than a quarter of black students when you only make up 13 percent of the entire nation's college-age population of black folks is wild fam.