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  • Oct 23, 2023

    Jesus and his family paid taxes to Rome. Jesus advocated paying taxes to Rome. He clashed more with domestic Pharisees and other local tribes more than the Roman imperialists.

    He was the only pacifist in a long line of more radical Messiah claimants, who were more in favor of using force to expel the Romans

    Jesus is just an allegory for kneeling to Rome. Josephus and Titus invented the New Testament together around the time of Titus’ destruction of Jerusalem.

    The New Testament is backdated 40 years prior from that to parallel Titus’ conquest and Jesus’ life that can only be true if

    A) Christian’s are right and Jesus predicted the future

    B) The gospel and New Testament was Roman propaganda invented after the destruction of the second temple.

  • No

  • Oct 23, 2023

    @op have you read the New Testament?

  • Oct 23, 2023

    idk, ask that nigga Paul

  • Oct 23, 2023

    It's actually anti-Roman propaganda

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    No kinda the opposite

    It takes issue with domestic religious leaders from a religious perspective.

    Also between Titus and the events of NT, Christians were covered in tar and burnt by Nero.

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    Bint

    No kinda the opposite

    It takes issue with domestic religious leaders from a religious perspective.

    Also between Titus and the events of NT, Christians were covered in tar and burnt by Nero.

    i was just about to say werent Christians actively hunted in Rome for awhile

  • Oct 24, 2023

    need some new chapters tbh

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    kids really dumb as S*** these days

    cant even troll right

  • Oct 24, 2023
    Bint

    No kinda the opposite

    It takes issue with domestic religious leaders from a religious perspective.

    Also between Titus and the events of NT, Christians were covered in tar and burnt by Nero.

    The writing style of the NT has several parallels to the secular work “War of the Jews” which was written in parallel with the NT. We can just look at the various books in it and see all the sigs of it being written by Greek-speaking Judeo-Roman aristocrats part of whatever government was ruling in that area at the time.

    Rome had a long history of co-opting the local religions of people they conquered by claiming their gods were just misnamed versions of Gods from the Roman pantheon

    This tactic didn’t work with the highly literate, iconoclastic and monotheistic Jews, so Titus and Josephus came up with a plan to co-opt Judaism with a book instead, thus Christianity was born.

    This was just meant to give console to the newly conquered Jewish slaves by telling them poverty was virtue and that their suffering in the material world will yield success in the afterlife.

    How Jesus became a revolutionary figure by driving out tax collectors and money lenders out of temples is beyond me. Yes usury is bad.

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Most of his actions are moderate and pacifist. Why is this monotheistic near eastern religion so easy on polytheistic conquerors and so hard on the local monotheistic Pharisees?

    The truth is there was a material need to unite the Mediterranean world by Rome but Judaism was insufficient because of its emphasis on circumcision and ethnicity.

    Christianity reformed Judaism into a world religion and thanks to Rome, its local Allies, and all the European colonizers

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    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    i was just about to say werent Christians actively hunted in Rome for awhile

    you dont think they modified the texts before making it the official religion of the empire tho?

  • Oct 24, 2023
    campspazlo

    Most of his actions are moderate and pacifist. Why is this monotheistic near eastern religion so easy on polytheistic conquerors and so hard on the local monotheistic Pharisees?

    The truth is there was a material need to unite the Mediterranean world by Rome but Judaism was insufficient because of its emphasis on circumcision and ethnicity.

    Christianity reformed Judaism into a world religion and thanks to Rome, its local Allies, and all the European colonizers

    because the pharisees were corrupt sophists and themselves in cahoots with the roman authorities

    they literally collaborate with the romans who themselves don’t really care that much about jesus

    they’re worse because they were Jesus own people betraying him, the romans weren’t

  • Nessy 🦎
    Oct 24, 2023

    christians were persecuted because they were annoying little s***s who defied the status quo by claiming Jesus was above the emperor and they were actively trying to convert people. Something other religions wouldn't do to comply with roman rule. i wouldn't be surprised if changes were made to the texts to compromise

  • Oct 24, 2023

    Cringe thread. Cringe hypothesis.

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    Later the leaders sent some Pharisees and supporters of Herod to trap Jesus into saying something for which he could be arrested.

    “Teacher,” they said, “we know how honest you are. You are impartial and don’t play favorites. You teach the way of God truthfully. Now tell us—is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not? Should we pay them, or shouldn’t we?”

    Jesus saw through their hypocrisy and said, “Why are you trying to trap me? Show me a Roman coin, and I’ll tell you.”

    When they handed it to him, he asked, “Whose picture and title are stamped on it?”

    “Caesar’s,” they replied.

    "Well, then,” Jesus said, “give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God.”

    Mark 12:13-17

    OP just doesn't want to pay taxes.

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    Chilla

    Later the leaders sent some Pharisees and supporters of Herod to trap Jesus into saying something for which he could be arrested.

    “Teacher,” they said, “we know how honest you are. You are impartial and don’t play favorites. You teach the way of God truthfully. Now tell us—is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not? Should we pay them, or shouldn’t we?”

    Jesus saw through their hypocrisy and said, “Why are you trying to trap me? Show me a Roman coin, and I’ll tell you.”

    When they handed it to him, he asked, “Whose picture and title are stamped on it?”

    “Caesar’s,” they replied.

    "Well, then,” Jesus said, “give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God.”

    Mark 12:13-17

    OP just doesn't want to pay taxes.

    Why should I give taxes to some emperor of a slave society

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    Didn't Romans give modern Christians the current interpretation of Jesus' teachings?

    FYI, that man was not saying follow me as in worship me. He was saying follow me like literally follow the path I've gone down and realise your own God nature aswell.

    The roman society would crumble if every person did what Jesus REALLY taught

  • Oct 24, 2023
    campspazlo

    Why should I give taxes to some emperor of a slave society

    I knew it! You a tax evader.

  • Oct 24, 2023
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    Nessy

    you dont think they modified the texts before making it the official religion of the empire tho?

    no, they would be risking death, let alone their particular denom being evaluated/called into question

  • Oct 24, 2023
    Chilla

    Later the leaders sent some Pharisees and supporters of Herod to trap Jesus into saying something for which he could be arrested.

    “Teacher,” they said, “we know how honest you are. You are impartial and don’t play favorites. You teach the way of God truthfully. Now tell us—is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not? Should we pay them, or shouldn’t we?”

    Jesus saw through their hypocrisy and said, “Why are you trying to trap me? Show me a Roman coin, and I’ll tell you.”

    When they handed it to him, he asked, “Whose picture and title are stamped on it?”

    “Caesar’s,” they replied.

    "Well, then,” Jesus said, “give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God.”

    Mark 12:13-17

    OP just doesn't want to pay taxes.

    bro was a gangster

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    jive

    Didn't Romans give modern Christians the current interpretation of Jesus' teachings?

    FYI, that man was not saying follow me as in worship me. He was saying follow me like literally follow the path I've gone down and realise your own God nature aswell.

    The roman society would crumble if every person did what Jesus REALLY taught

    Where do u people come up with this stuff

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    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    no, they would be risking death, let alone their particular denom being evaluated/called into question

    Why would they risk death if they're the ones in charge

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    Q3D

    Why would they risk death if they're the ones in charge

    there is an entire body of work dedicated to the Bible and it’s accuracy dating back to God knows where

    even if some superiors/higher ups changed the Bible at some point of time, it would inevitably be found out because the Bible is always being evaluated and checked to see if it aligns with the original texts and scriptures

    that isn’t even mentioning other Christians around the world that could also check to see they’re doing that s*** correctly

    honestly questioning the Bible’s veracity of all things is a pretty lazy way to try to dunk on the religion, it’s pretty robust all things considered if you ask me

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    Fur Stake

    Where do u people come up with this stuff

    It's called studying