Murder is the unlawful killing of another so I guess the question becomes what is the morality of the law and do laws actually serve to properly express morality.

I suppose that all comes back to where you stand on the spectrum of absolute vs relative morality. Which given your last sentence it seems to you to be relative

Asking the real questions

Not to be a d*** about a sensitive subject, but there's a reason why 99% of people say "my wife had a miscarriage" instead of "my child died" when an 8-12 week old fetus doesn't come to term. It's a terrible experience for the woman and her loved ones, but a child didn't die.

My wife had a miscarriage at 5 weeks and it was awful, I damn near had a breakdown over it and it took us both time to heal, but I never tried to garner sympathy by comparing my experience to that of someone who had a stillborn child or someone whose baby died of SIDS. That would be wrong of me.

Abortion is not murder. It's a personal decision and a potentially very important form of health care. If you think it is murder, you're not immoral for thinking so, but restricting the freedom of other adults on such key matters is immoral IMO.

I think a lot more men think like that because they don’t have to put their bodies and even their lives at risk to pregnancy.

bruh

sperm is to egg.....

my hot take is that it is murder but it should be permissible because it's still a phase of life that's entirely reliant on the mother to survive so if she chooses to abort it she should be allowed to

only 3 types of murder (terminating another life) should be legal imo

1. abortion
2. euthanasia for those that request it
3. self defense

these will allow the most freedom to individuals while also respecting the sanctity of human life

pro abortion, anti death penalty is a great example of modern morality inversion

death for the innocent
life for the guilty

Yall just be saying s***

wow you must think you're thanos or something

dont know who that is

touche

How many people have you met who are openly pro-life also have no other significantly problematic views?

It’s not even getting into how s*** childcare and maternity/paternity leave is throughout the country (specifically in states administering these bans).

It’s NOT about children.

Well first you would have to ask if it's the thought that's immoral or the acts that (a lot not all) people commit based on that thought is

Which would make me answer ur question with another question is THOUGHT POLICE immoral

Literally 1984?

ive never thought to categorize views and opinions into camps of problematic or non-problematic and then ranking them in order of amount of problematicness. who does that

i mean problematic for who? YOU? f*** you😂😭

If its immoral to want this 10 year old girl who was raped by a pedophile to have the proper medical care she needs to safely not have this rape baby then f*** it nigga i’m immoral

and I don’t give a singular f***

Because conception doesn’t happen until the sperm fertilizes an egg..?

that's biopower for you

not read him tbh

So if kick your pregnant wife in the stomach and the 8 month old baby dies its moral?

Abortion is done early in pregnancy, can actually really argue that its not a baby yet. Otherwise they wouldnt do it

does that mean c*******into my sock is immoral, it could have been a baby but now its just a stain

That’s genocide brother

im not just pro-choice, im pro-abortion. F*** it, actually im anti-babys. Im sick of these little f***s