Oct 8, 2022No
Oct 8, 2022·2 replies
SO HELP ME DOGThe problem is in the context
Nobody is saying white people don't matter or whatever but black people still suffer from systemic social and economic discrimination and racism in the US that white people (like myself) will never truly experience. In the eyes of the system for all intents and purposes black lives do not matter and that's why BLM is important.
White lives matter/all lives matter are white supremacist dog whistles and distractions that
serve no other pourposes other than to detract from the meaning of and importance of BLMThere are definitely racist cops out there, but this systemic racist epidemic that you’re referring to is a media creation. It is programming that is designed to sow division & generate outrage for clicks, views, and votes. It doesn’t line up with the data and isn’t based in reality in 2022.
White Lives Matter is a stupid phrase, but so is Black Lives Matter. Police brutality is a real issue that shouldn’t be racially segregated.
Oct 8, 2022·1 replyrussianbot23There are definitely racist cops out there, but this systemic racist epidemic that you’re referring to is a media creation. It is programming that is designed to sow division & generate outrage for clicks, views, and votes. It doesn’t line up with the data and isn’t based in reality in 2022.
White Lives Matter is a stupid phrase, but so is Black Lives Matter. Police brutality is a real issue that shouldn’t be racially segregated.
when did the system stop being racist? desegregation?
- Oct 8, 2022·2 repliesamericana
when did the system stop being racist? desegregation?
Gradual process over decades. What evidence are you currently seeing of systemic racism in policing?
Oct 8, 2022It's already over. Many people don't take him seriously anymore and realize his petty attention-seeking.
- Oct 8, 2022·1 replyrussianbot23
Gradual process over decades. What evidence are you currently seeing of systemic racism in policing?
Black Americans account for 40% of the American prison population despite making up 12% of the total population? That is a discrepancy of a factor of three
44% of all people killed by police are black, despite making up 12% of the population Another discrepancy of over 4
black people are paid the second least per dollar of labor in the US, after latino americans
What conclusion can you reach from this, other than stating that the system, even implicitly and not explicitly, is meant to subjugate and exploit black Americans and not offer them an equal opportunity to success compared to nonblack Americans?
- Oct 8, 2022·2 repliesamericana
Black Americans account for 40% of the American prison population despite making up 12% of the total population? That is a discrepancy of a factor of three
44% of all people killed by police are black, despite making up 12% of the population Another discrepancy of over 4
black people are paid the second least per dollar of labor in the US, after latino americans
What conclusion can you reach from this, other than stating that the system, even implicitly and not explicitly, is meant to subjugate and exploit black Americans and not offer them an equal opportunity to success compared to nonblack Americans?
Do these discrepancies not line up with crime rates? Have you considered the possibility that black Americans are committing more crimes relative to their proportion of the population? More crimes = more interactions with police = increased likelihood of being killed by police.
Obviously there are a lot of factors behind the crime rates and crime alone doesn’t justify police killings, but when the numbers are put into context they don’t stand out as evidence of systemic racism.
- Oct 8, 2022·1 replyrussianbot23
Do these discrepancies not line up with crime rates? Have you considered the possibility that black Americans are committing more crimes relative to their proportion of the population? More crimes = more interactions with police = increased likelihood of being killed by police.
Obviously there are a lot of factors behind the crime rates and crime alone doesn’t justify police killings, but when the numbers are put into context they don’t stand out as evidence of systemic racism.
Why do you think black people commit more crimes?
- Oct 8, 2022·edited·1 replyamericana
Why do you think black people commit more crimes?
Residual damage from past systemic racism. Not denying it ever existed or that it isn’t having a prolonged effect on the black community.
I think the media is pushing the wrong issue and only stirring more division. Instead of focusing on the more complicated and long-term issue of improving opportunities for the black community, they’re running a fear campaign to lead people into believing that innocent black men are being hunted down and murdered in the streets in mass by a racist police force.
- Oct 8, 2022·edited·3 repliesrussianbot23
Residual damage from past systemic racism. Not denying it ever existed or that it isn’t having a prolonged effect on the black community.
I think the media is pushing the wrong issue and only stirring more division. Instead of focusing on the more complicated and long-term issue of improving opportunities for the black community, they’re running a fear campaign to lead people into believing that innocent black men are being hunted down and murdered in the streets in mass by a racist police force.
why are you saying the system is not racist when there are still structures that, 60 years away from desegregation, require black people to commit crime to get by, as per your own admission. Especially when no one in power is doing anything materially notable to solve these issues and only exacerbate them?
In fact, here is a TON to gain from the current state of black people. It's not "residual" at all. Police Unions can reach quotas and earn funding by overpolicing black neighborhoods. Private prisons can get a TON of legal slaves from this by effect (slavery is still legal). Politicians can get votes from providing lip service to black people with real issues. Banks can give unstable loans to black people in droves.
It's not just wrong to say a system isn't racist because the racism is "residual," the system is racist because the racism is ACTIVE. You're wrong! Not only in your a***ysis of the system of racial hierarchy in the US, but also whether or not such a system is egalitarian based on said a***ysis!
Oct 8, 2022russianbot23There are definitely racist cops out there, but this systemic racist epidemic that you’re referring to is a media creation. It is programming that is designed to sow division & generate outrage for clicks, views, and votes. It doesn’t line up with the data and isn’t based in reality in 2022.
White Lives Matter is a stupid phrase, but so is Black Lives Matter. Police brutality is a real issue that shouldn’t be racially segregated.
Where that argument falls apart is that that same media, which is historically just a reflection of America’s societal perceptions, has always portrayed African-Americans as violent, predatory criminals. That narrative was also a creation, thus the belief that it was necessary to over-police those communities.
It’s no secret that black people are rarely handled with “kid gloves”, as demonstrated by the endless amounts of police cam footage…
Oct 8, 2022·1 replynah, guy reputation might sink even lower but he'll always find a way to comeback, either artistically or in real life
Oct 8, 2022Smoochillnah, guy reputation might sink even lower but he'll always find a way to comeback, either artistically or in real life
Idk
People get old and change
- Oct 8, 2022
lovedontexistreal question is, do white lives even matter in 2022?
mos def sonned him so well
Oct 8, 2022·1 replylovedontexistreal question is, do white lives even matter in 2022?
have they ever mattered in this country?
the answer is no
Oct 8, 2022·1 replyamericana· editedwhy are you saying the system is not racist when there are still structures that, 60 years away from desegregation, require black people to commit crime to get by, as per your own admission. Especially when no one in power is doing anything materially notable to solve these issues and only exacerbate them?
In fact, here is a TON to gain from the current state of black people. It's not "residual" at all. Police Unions can reach quotas and earn funding by overpolicing black neighborhoods. Private prisons can get a TON of legal slaves from this by effect (slavery is still legal). Politicians can get votes from providing lip service to black people with real issues. Banks can give unstable loans to black people in droves.
It's not just wrong to say a system isn't racist because the racism is "residual," the system is racist because the racism is ACTIVE. You're wrong! Not only in your a***ysis of the system of racial hierarchy in the US, but also whether or not such a system is egalitarian based on said a***ysis!
You got a lot of patience tonight. Saved me from having to ether them
- Oct 8, 2022·2 repliesSwaygan
You got a lot of patience tonight. Saved me from having to ether them
It’s ridiculous people are still figuring out this notion when we can look to decades of overpolicing, redlining, d*** wars, brutality, financial oppression, exploitation, the whole thing
Even if things were fair on paper (they aren’t) they aren’t fair when you’re inheriting a racist system and doing nothing to rectify the results of that racism
- Oct 8, 2022·2 repliesamericana
why are you saying the system is not racist when there are still structures that, 60 years away from desegregation, require black people to commit crime to get by, as per your own admission. Especially when no one in power is doing anything materially notable to solve these issues and only exacerbate them?
In fact, here is a TON to gain from the current state of black people. It's not "residual" at all. Police Unions can reach quotas and earn funding by overpolicing black neighborhoods. Private prisons can get a TON of legal slaves from this by effect (slavery is still legal). Politicians can get votes from providing lip service to black people with real issues. Banks can give unstable loans to black people in droves.
It's not just wrong to say a system isn't racist because the racism is "residual," the system is racist because the racism is ACTIVE. You're wrong! Not only in your a***ysis of the system of racial hierarchy in the US, but also whether or not such a system is egalitarian based on said a***ysis!
I think we’re arguing different points. I’m focused on systemic racism in the police force, which is the main narrative that the media has been pushing and the basis for the BLM movement. I don’t think that police over-policing high crime areas is an example of that.
I’m not denying that there are aspects of the larger American system that are racist. However I don’t think that those aspects are a priority to the media, and thus go unmentioned while BLM drives all of the attention toward misleading statistics.
- Oct 8, 2022americana
It’s ridiculous people are still figuring out this notion when we can look to decades of overpolicing, redlining, d*** wars, brutality, financial oppression, exploitation, the whole thing
Even if things were fair on paper (they aren’t) they aren’t fair when you’re inheriting a racist system and doing nothing to rectify the results of that racism
Idk I watched fox last night for that interview and a lot of the asinine takes ive seen from people on here and in person finally clicked for me on how they got to the mindstate they did
- Oct 8, 2022americana
It’s ridiculous people are still figuring out this notion when we can look to decades of overpolicing, redlining, d*** wars, brutality, financial oppression, exploitation, the whole thing
Even if things were fair on paper (they aren’t) they aren’t fair when you’re inheriting a racist system and doing nothing to rectify the results of that racism
Adding on you gotta realize the facebook feeds and social media bubbles people get sucked into alters their worldviews immensely and turns people into extremists whether its alt right or moderate views. I think the future of hacking is getting into peoples accounts and interacting with stuff to change their algorithms to incept political mindsets into people.
- Oct 8, 2022·1 replyrussianbot23
I think we’re arguing different points. I’m focused on systemic racism in the police force, which is the main narrative that the media has been pushing and the basis for the BLM movement. I don’t think that police over-policing high crime areas is an example of that.
I’m not denying that there are aspects of the larger American system that are racist. However I don’t think that those aspects are a priority to the media, and thus go unmentioned while BLM drives all of the attention toward misleading statistics.
There is a glaring system where police oversaturate themselves in black neighborhoods, send criminals to state prisons as felons for things that white people would get a slap on the hand for, and then ensure that they are prevented from achieving progress by restricting employment for felons and introducing financial barriers to education.
It’s racist. It exists, it’s been mentioned by private prison owners as a system they wish to fund and protect. Policing is the front line of American racism.
Oct 8, 2022·1 replyamericanaThere is a glaring system where police oversaturate themselves in black neighborhoods, send criminals to state prisons as felons for things that white people would get a slap on the hand for, and then ensure that they are prevented from achieving progress by restricting employment for felons and introducing financial barriers to education.
It’s racist. It exists, it’s been mentioned by private prison owners as a system they wish to fund and protect. Policing is the front line of American racism.
Systematic racism has created black neighborhoods with extremely high gang violence which causes their to be high policing in those neighborhoods
It’s a system that’s always going to be a self prophecy
We need to simultaneously lower gang violence and support these neighborhoods while holding cops responsible
Abolishing the police is not a solution. Fund community resources, education, cleaner neighborhoods, more opportunities.
- Oct 8, 2022·1 replyPsalm
Systematic racism has created black neighborhoods with extremely high gang violence which causes their to be high policing in those neighborhoods
It’s a system that’s always going to be a self prophecy
We need to simultaneously lower gang violence and support these neighborhoods while holding cops responsible
Abolishing the police is not a solution. Fund community resources, education, cleaner neighborhoods, more opportunities.
Who’s gonna fund it
those who have the power to fund it won’t do it because that goes against their interests Rather, the means of emancipation will be found through community organization so that a second, dual power system preferable to the American system is created that properly provides for its black constituents
Don’t look for funding from above, look for unity within.
- Oct 9, 2022·1 replyamericana
Who’s gonna fund it
those who have the power to fund it won’t do it because that goes against their interests Rather, the means of emancipation will be found through community organization so that a second, dual power system preferable to the American system is created that properly provides for its black constituents
Don’t look for funding from above, look for unity within.
I’m sorry but you’re never going to create a dual power system outside of our current system … that’s a pipe dream
People need to get more involved in local politics. Everyone wants to care about who will be the next president, but it matters much more on voting for people locally who will allocate funds into the right people and organizations