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    i don't like this "he's been devoid post-yeezus" sentiment in here as it is far too dismissive of the quality of material that is on TLOP which i view as a postmodern self-referential step forward sound wise

    and that's even if said sound is not as often harsh and abrasive as what is found on yeezus

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    pneumonia

    Maybe but that’s absolutely fine considering the career he’s had, it’ll never be replicated and will go down in history as one of the greatest.

    Everything from here on out is just a victory lap.

    Maybe if your idea of a Victory lap is s***ting your pants in front of everyone

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    Benny Boy

    He's been out of ideas since Yeezus lol

    Edit: Crazy to see this be the consensus. Ye did so much foul s*** even his fans are being objective.

    kanye​tothe became more like DrakeToThe in ‘22 or so

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    BlueDream

    Like everyone else is saying, he pretty much emptied out his tank after Yeezus

    SHMG era showed promise with Wolves, I Feel Like That and Only One. But it started to become clear that it was the first era that didn’t have true focus or direction

    After that, most of his music was just half-assed ideas stitched together that barely hold the albums together.
    And not to mention the steep decline in lyrics

    Once the 350s dropped it was over. Most money, most influential, biggest artist, hottest girl. Like he had no mountains to climb

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    Classique

    Once the 350s dropped it was over. Most money, most influential, biggest artist, hottest girl. Like he had no mountains to climb

    He made a few great Christian songs I’ll give him that.

    and DJ Khaled Son Of course

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    Q3D

    Maybe if your idea of a Victory lap is s***ting your pants in front of everyone

    I'd consider touring the world with sold out shows as a victory lap personally.

  • Broscodolo

    He made a few great Christian songs I’ll give him that.

    and DJ Khaled Son Of course

    I liked a lot the post tlop music and still do but like it was never the same

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    pneumonia

    I'd consider touring the world with sold out shows as a victory lap personally.

    Fair, this thread is about albums however

  • Q3D

    Fair, this thread is about albums however

    Yeah and I pretty much agreed with OP, every artist's creativity falls off, it's literally inevitable but his run was one of a kind and will be remembered as such.

  • raps

    Its the TLOP/Donda formula of just mashing up all the s*** we like that he’s already done

    KING and Father could have been on Yeezus

    The soul chop songs in the middle are aimed at those who love his first few albums

    So on and so forth

    He’ll be lost until he completely commits to a sound and aesthetic again for an album, that he hasnt based a prior album around
    I think Come To Life/Jail and OK from Bully Deluxe (!!!), those sound templates could carry a whole album

    I don’t see KING or Father being on Yeezus like that tbh if anything it takes small elements from them but that’s about it. Which Kanye album or even anyone’s album in the modern day, has songs like White Lines, BULLY, I Can’t Wait, Circles, and All The Love?

  • Benny Boy

    He's been out of ideas since Yeezus lol

    Edit: Crazy to see this be the consensus. Ye did so much foul s*** even his fans are being objective.

    Ye fans always been real compared to Drake fans for example

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    raps

    Its the TLOP/Donda formula of just mashing up all the s*** we like that he’s already done

    KING and Father could have been on Yeezus

    The soul chop songs in the middle are aimed at those who love his first few albums

    So on and so forth

    He’ll be lost until he completely commits to a sound and aesthetic again for an album, that he hasnt based a prior album around
    I think Come To Life/Jail and OK from Bully Deluxe (!!!), those sound templates could carry a whole album

    Why Ye has to innovate every album? Didn't he do enough

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    Classique

    kanye​tothe became more like DrakeToThe in ‘22 or so

    PapiToThe 🫦😈😈😈

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    OnceAgain

    Why Ye has to innovate every album? Didn't he do enough

    Why rap has to innovate every album? Didn't we do enough

  • NEW VISION

    PapiToThe 🫦😈😈😈

    r9tothe

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    Valentine

    Why rap has to innovate every album? Didn't we do enough

    You keep him to a different standard than any other artist w that many albums

    Nobody still innovating in the genre 10+ albums in

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    BlueDream

    Like everyone else is saying, he pretty much emptied out his tank after Yeezus

    SHMG era showed promise with Wolves, I Feel Like That and Only One. But it started to become clear that it was the first era that didn’t have true focus or direction

    After that, most of his music was just half-assed ideas stitched together that barely hold the albums together.
    And not to mention the steep decline in lyrics

    It kills me the Paul McCartney album will never happen

    Only one and fourfive seconds showed so much promise and Kanye obviously loves to sing. It would’ve been such an interesting pivot for a full fleshed out album

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    JeffersonSteelflex

    I don’t see KING or Father being on Yeezus like that tbh if anything it takes small elements from them but that’s about it. Which Kanye album or even anyone’s album in the modern day, has songs like White Lines, BULLY, I Can’t Wait, Circles, and All The Love?

    They all play on things he used heavily from the MBDTF to Yeezus run

    The drums on I Can’t Wait are super MBDTF

    White Lines is actually one of his better recent songs and that minimal drum sound seems to be what the original BULLY cohesive sound was like that “Brand New Tires Keep Spinning” song

    All The Love feels like 08-09 Yeezy Stadium Sound something that would ring off in Glow In The Dark Tour reminds me of I’m The S*** lol (feature he did in 09) and GITD Dont Stop Believing Mix from the book trailer

    Circles isnt directly biting something from the past but it also feels weird to hear Ye do iconic samples like that and he’s not really adding anything

  • i’d rather hë stick to fan service but taking years for it rather than trying to recreate what he once had in his previous albums where everything came within a year or two up until yeezus.

  • OnceAgain

    Why Ye has to innovate every album? Didn't he do enough

    It’s what his main appeal was in his prime from 2007-2013

  • OnceAgain

    You keep him to a different standard than any other artist w that many albums

    Nobody still innovating in the genre 10+ albums in

    He could have though. He just started tweaking and gives up on committing to sonic palettes like he did before

    Its moments on all of his albums since after Yeezus that could be stretched into a full cohesive sound

  • Childhood

    i don't like this "he's been devoid post-yeezus" sentiment in here as it is far too dismissive of the quality of material that is on TLOP which i view as a postmodern self-referential step forward sound wise

    and that's even if said sound is not as often harsh and abrasive as what is found on yeezus

    the whole f***ing point of tlop is that it's a retrospective of his life and career up to that point, i think that's missed by a lot of posters in this thread

  • Gawpers

    It kills me the Paul McCartney album will never happen

    Only one and fourfive seconds showed so much promise and Kanye obviously loves to sing. It would’ve been such an interesting pivot for a full fleshed out album

    my one true grail -

  • BlueDream

    Like everyone else is saying, he pretty much emptied out his tank after Yeezus

    SHMG era showed promise with Wolves, I Feel Like That and Only One. But it started to become clear that it was the first era that didn’t have true focus or direction

    After that, most of his music was just half-assed ideas stitched together that barely hold the albums together.
    And not to mention the steep decline in lyrics

    i mean the thing with post yeezus that no ones talking about is that he didn't also have to run a billion dollar fashion brand at the same time with his classics

    like the man just literally has had less and less time to work on music, and we're expecting the same quality as when he was putting all of his time/money/attention on the music and was staying up for days nudging the timing of samples

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    Mark Moschino

    i mean the thing with post yeezus that no ones talking about is that he didn't also have to run a billion dollar fashion brand at the same time with his classics

    like the man just literally has had less and less time to work on music, and we're expecting the same quality as when he was putting all of his time/money/attention on the music and was staying up for days nudging the timing of samples

    that's true , and he also started using music as promo for fashion instead of making music for the sake of music

    tlop was aligned with the yeezy season 3 show, wolves was debuted for yeezy season 2 show, god level was for an adidas commercial etc.