He ran out of album ideas post-Yeezus, which is largely why most of the 2013-2015 leaks are such a mess, it’s sort of a miracle TLOP turned out as great as it did.
Ye, KSG and JIK are super-present time capsule like albums that are a representation of who he was, or attempting to be in that moment, they don’t offer much beyond that but at least they have that anchor.
Everything else feels and sounds lost. DONDA 2 is probably the closest he’s come to making something purposeful, with a lot of reflection and commentary on his life, but you know.
I’d like to add to this, cuz I don’t think it was well translated the first time: I love TLOP, on a good day it ranks fourth in his discography for me, and I also think it’s his most experimental work by a wide margin. I just happen to think it also signified a massive shift in his approach to creating music, even if the methods felt similar (and still somewhat continue to be.)
I also enjoy Ye, KSG, and JIK to varying degrees.
that's true , and he also started using music as promo for fashion instead of making music for the sake of music
tlop was aligned with the yeezy season 3 show, wolves was debuted for yeezy season 2 show, god level was for an adidas commercial etc.
craft is about consistency !
They all play on things he used heavily from the MBDTF to Yeezus run
The drums on I Can’t Wait are super MBDTF
White Lines is actually one of his better recent songs and that minimal drum sound seems to be what the original BULLY cohesive sound was like that “Brand New Tires Keep Spinning” song
All The Love feels like 08-09 Yeezy Stadium Sound something that would ring off in Glow In The Dark Tour reminds me of I’m The S*** lol (feature he did in 09) and GITD Dont Stop Believing Mix from the book trailer
Circles isnt directly biting something from the past but it also feels weird to hear Ye do iconic samples like that and he’s not really adding anything
Basically idk to me BULLY sounds like what So Help Me God was trying to be before the convo with Metro changed the whole vibe and then he made TLOP. Bully is like the timeline we get if he continued making experimental sounds instead of trying to be played on the radio
Basically idk to me BULLY sounds like what So Help Me God was trying to be before the convo with Metro changed the whole vibe and then he made TLOP. Bully is like the timeline we get if he continued making experimental sounds instead of trying to be played on the radio
Yea either way i fw Bully and lowkey might be rap album this year with most replay value so far
But wait what convo with Metro?
I’d like to add to this, cuz I don’t think it was well translated the first time: I love TLOP, on a good day it ranks fourth in his discography for me, and I also think it’s his most experimental work by a wide margin. I just happen to think it also signified a massive shift in his approach to creating music, even if the methods felt similar (and still somewhat continue to be.)
I also enjoy Ye, KSG, and JIK to varying degrees.
TLOP is where he became somewhat of an artsy DJ Khaled lol
Don’t think he’s out of ideas just needs to put together a team of talented musicians and producers. Not no loop makers
Yea either way i fw Bully and lowkey might be rap album this year with most replay value so far
But wait what convo with Metro?
Metro and Southside convinced Ye to bring Pablo down to earth and make it “less futuristic”
Metro and Southside convinced Ye to bring Pablo down to earth and make it “less futuristic”
they robbed us ! Still my favorite album ever
they robbed us ! Still my favorite album ever
Maybe. Maybe not. Mitus version of the album was really scratchy still so who knows
Sounds like yall never listened to WAR
Streets still genuinely need Cuck
Bully ended up being way better than anyone could have possibly imagined tbh
the whole f***ing point of tlop is that it's a retrospective of his life and career up to that point, i think that's missed by a lot of posters in this thread
Is that true or did you just make it up
I loved Bully and people said it was trying to sound like old Ye but I thought it was a nice addition to his latter years discog and yes we have soul samples and etc but I think it was doing something different with them. For sure it wasn't a classic but still I liked it
who knows how future albums will be. I don't know why we gotta box people in with labels like legacy act or whatever
If you look at the legendary musicians who keep making music into their latter years yes there are always duds but they're also capable of producing late classics too. I think he still got creativity for it to happen, it's just harder
I don’t get the hate for BULLY on this site cause to me it’s a return to form after the manic eras of TLOP - Vultures imo. It sounds like its own universe compared to anything else that’s around instead of trying mad hard to sound current.
I agree. I think it’s actually one of his most thought out albums conceptually and thematically. The songs are short and repetitive almost like they’re self affirmations.
I don’t think it’s peake Kanye but definitely worthwhile especially in like year 25 of his career.
Wrote him off completely after Ye and JIK and then he came back with Donda so anything’s possible
I agree. I think it’s actually one of his most thought out albums conceptually and thematically. The songs are short and repetitive almost like they’re self affirmations.
I don’t think it’s peake Kanye but definitely worthwhile especially in like year 25 of his career.
Facts
Instrumental album is the move
Would be dope af actually if he got Mike Dean and others to collab too
Just when you think you've seen every possible variant of a gimmick account on this site
Kanye being or not being great has nothing to do with his circumstances. You can make amazing art out of any life stage. It comes from his lack of drive to truly dig deep and make something incredible. Bully is undoubtedly a step in the right direction — at least it’s mostly coherent and enjoyable — but it is definitely SAFE which is the last thing you ever expect from Ye.