Thread used to be goat

Just people sharing stories, struggles and stuff

Since this travis bickle guy signed up idk wtf he's on

Again, you're on a music forum built by a non muslim

How do you even function irl

To the people defending him and asking where has he been radical

Here you go

? again why are you bringing this awful strawman for a second time. in response to shia ‘ulema declaring Sunnis as kuffar doomed for eternity?

make it make sense

that majin guy started it. Thread was just talking about normal stuff
then he just HAD to bring up shias
i knew it was only going one way after that

Also the comparisons he made added so much fuel to the fire

Do you believe islam is the religion of peace

no it isn’t

it is the religion of haqq and justice

Then why do people call it the religion of peace and why was the word islam chosen for the religion? The word is derived from al-salaam the arabic word for peace.

also a misunderstanding.

The word islam has the arabic root word of al-silam, not al salaam.

This is affirmed in the Qur’an in Surah al Baqarah

al silam means submission, in this case to the will and rulings and revelations of Allah and teachings of His Messenger, may Allah bless him and be pleased with him.

we literally on a forum dedicated to kanye west you need to relax. this thread isnt about getting mad and arguing and that other useless crap. its a place where we can all share knowledge show each other love and lift each other up.

? location doesn’t change the nature of haqq what are you on about.

wallahi i said nothing out of anger or frustration or to argue. Some of statements being made in here are a clear contradiction to the Qur’an and Sunnah, and it’s from the Sunnah to repeal and forbid this.

not solely talking to/about you.
also remember that the Qur'an is a book and like any other book it can be interpreted a million different ways. just because me or someone else in the thread interprets said book differently than you doesn't mean you should think negatively and try to assert your view over theirs (not just talking about you) and i get that you are not trying to argue and be jerk but some of your statements have been quite alarming.

akhi you’re eternally wrong about your statement regarding interpreting the Qur’an.

There is only one proper method of interpretation and it is through the accounts of the Sunnah and Seerah which are detailed in books of Tafsir.

What you just said is what opens the door to deviancy and heretical viewpoints that ruin a believer in the dunya and the akhirah

This is why Aqeedah and the Sharh is important.

Everyone who is true and striving upon their deen should read the following:

Aqeedah at Tahawiyyah
Aqeedah al Wasitiyah

I recommend the Sharh from Sheikh Ibn Baz rahimullah for the first and Sheikh Uthaymeen’s rahimullah Sharh for the second

Also,

Kitab al Tauheed and the Four Principles of Shirk by Sheikh al Wahhab rahimullah

Insanity

you need to log off and take a breather man.

mane

you need deep what the kafir sheikh in that video is saying and wake up.

Also, i await your reply to your surprising statement regarding interpretation of the Qur’an

how am i wrong for saying that two people can read text whether that be the Quran or some other book and interpret in a different way from each other. its not even a absurd statement

Off the authority and ruling from Sheikh Ibn Baaz rahimullah:

What is the ruling on ta’wil (allegorical interpretation) of Allah’s Attributes?

A: Ta’wil of Allah’s Attributes is Munkar (disapproved of by Islamic law and Muslims of sound intellect) and is not permissible. In fact, it is obligatory for the Attributes of Allah to be accepted as stated, according to their apparent meaning that befits Allah’s Glory (Glorified and Exalted be He), without Tahrif (distortion of the meaning), Ta‘til (denial), Takyif (describing how), or Tamthil (likening His Attributes to those of His Creation).

Allah (Glorified and Exalted be He) informs us of His Names and Attributes, saying: There is nothing like Him; and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer. As Muslims, we have to accept them as they are, according to the opinion of Ahl-ul-Sunnah wal-Jama‘ah (those adhering to the Sunnah and the Muslim main body). They advise Muslims to acknowledge Allah’s Attributes as they are, without Takyif. They should be accepted as they are, without Tahrif, Ta’wil or Takyif. Muslims should attest to Allah’s Attributes as they were revealed, according to their apparent meaning and as befits Allah’s Stature, without any Takyif or Tamthil. For example, Allah says: The Most Gracious (Allâh) rose over (Istawâ) the (Mighty) Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). In this Ayah (Qur’anic verse) and similar ones, we are told that Allah rose over the Throne, which is in a manner that suits His Majesty and Grandeur, and the manner of this cannot be compared to that of any of His creatures. The scholars who follow Al-Haqq (the Truth) see this as signifying His Highness and Exaltedness.

The same applies to other Attributes of Allah, such as His Eye, Hearing, Sight, Hand, Foot, and other Attributes that are authentically reported in Nas (Islamic texts from the Qur’an or the Sunnah). All of these Attributes are as befits Allah (Exalted be He) and are not comparable to those of any creature. This is the opinion of the scholars from among the Sahabah (Companions of the Prophet) and those after them from the Imams (initiators of a School of Jurisprudence), such as Al-Awza‘y, Al-Thawry, Malik, Abu Hanifah, Ahmad, Ishaq, and other Muslim Imams (may Allah be merciful to them all).

Allah says, when relating the story of Prophet Nuh (Noah, peace be upon him): And We carried him on a (ship) made of planks and nails, Floating under Our Eyes He (Glorified be He) also says when relating the story of Prophet Musa (Moses, peace be upon him): in order that you may be brought up under My Eye. Ahl-ul-Sunnah wal-Jama‘ah explained the Ayah where Allah says: Floating under Our Eyes by saying that He (Glorified be He) let the ship float under His Care until it rested on Mount Judy. Similarly, when Allah says: in order that you may be brought up under My Eye. they say that He (Glorified be He) means that Musa (peace be upon him) will be brought up under His Care and with His Guidance to those in charge of raising him.

In the same manner, when Allah (may He be Praised) says to the Prophet (peace be upon him): So wait patiently (O Muhammad Sallalaahu Alahi wa Sallam) for the Decision of your Lord, for verily, you are under Our Eyes He means that Muhammad is under Allah’s Protection and Care. These interpretations do not fall under the prohibited Ta’wil; rather, they fall under Tafsir (explanation/exegesis) well-known in the Arabic language and its styles.

A third example is in a Hadith Qudsy (Revelation from Allah in the Prophet’s words)where Allah (Glorified be He) says: “Anyone who comes nearer to Me by a span, I come nearer to them by a cubit; and anyone who comes nearer to Me by a cubit, I come nearer to them by a fathom; and anyone who comes to Me walking, I come to them running.” These words are accepted as they were revealed from Allah (may He be Praised and Exalted) without Tahrif, Takyif, or Tamthil, but in the way that is wanted by Allah. The same thing can be said about Allah’s Descent at the end of the night, His Hearing, Sight, Anger, Pleasure, Laughter, Happiness, and other authentically established Attributes of Allah. They all must be accepted as they were revealed, in the manner that befits Allah, without any Takyif, Tahrif, Ta‘til or Tamthil. This is because Allah says: There is nothing like Him; and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer. and many Ayahs to the same effect.

As for Ta’wil of Allah’s Attributes and diverging them from apparent meaning, this is the methodology of those who follow Bid‘ah (innovations in religion), such as the Jahmiyyah and the Mu‘tazilah (deviant Islamic sects), and those who follow them. Their Madh-habs (Schools of Jurisprudence) are Batil (null and void), and have been denied and renounced by Ahl-ul-Sunnah wal-Jama‘ah, who have warned people against their promoters. And Allah is the Grantor of success.

Tafsir is the only correct methodology of interpreting Qur’an.

This is only one fatawa. I can bring you numerous more if you’d like.

I think travis bickle needs his own separate thread

This thread was always about talking to each other as muslims our mistakes, good deeds, and just general convo

He's coming into this thread and saying theres only one specific way to be a muslim and everyone else is a "dog" lol

Ruining the thread and he has a complete lack of self aweness too

You salafi?