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notbrockY’all talking about how the genre fell off and all modern rappers suck then turn around and glaze Uzi lmao
Bro was the prototype for modern rappers in almost every way
Only difference is he actually made some catchy songs
Nah I think there's a big difference between Uzi and some of these newer acts
Uzi actually knows how to write a song (and he can actually rap as well)
- ·1 replyshaleirose
Nah I think there's a big difference between Uzi and some of these newer acts
Uzi actually knows how to write a song (and he can actually rap as well)
“Actually rap” is a bar that’s been set so low they were calling Jack Harlow a lyrical miracle guy
I do give him credit on being able to write a catchy song
But the attitude and aesthetics have carried over from him into so many modern rappers
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“Actually rap” is a bar that’s been set so low they were calling Jack Harlow a lyrical miracle guy
I do give him credit on being able to write a catchy song
But the attitude and aesthetics have carried over from him into so many modern rappers
The attitude & aesthetics aren't the problem though, the product is
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The attitude & aesthetics aren't the problem though, the product is
The attitude and heavy focus on aesthetic leads to the bad product
Nayuta 🧡·1 replynotbrockThe attitude and heavy focus on aesthetic leads to the bad product
Thug started that and he was having hits regardless of wearing dresses and whatever else
If the musics good people will listen to it, Prince was zesty as hell and operated in a different genre, but it aint harm his reach in much more homophobic times
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Thug started that and he was having hits regardless of wearing dresses and whatever else
If the musics good people will listen to it, Prince was zesty as hell and operated in a different genre, but it aint harm his reach in much more homophobic times
The problem is people copy the wrong things
It’s like Wayne refusing to write lyrics. It was dope for him but led to a bunch of rappers trying to do the same thing and they mostly suck
- ·1 replynotbrock
The attitude and heavy focus on aesthetic leads to the bad product
It don't though, plenty of artists have had bad attitudes and/or controversial aesthetics but the music is good enough to ignore it
- shaleirose
It don't though, plenty of artists have had bad attitudes and/or controversial aesthetics but the music is good enough to ignore it
You don’t see how a certain attitude can lead to bad music?
- Nayuta 🧡·1 replynotbrock
The problem is people copy the wrong things
It’s like Wayne refusing to write lyrics. It was dope for him but led to a bunch of rappers trying to do the same thing and they mostly suck
It did but punching in as a general thing would have created that still
Furthermore the general audience does not care about lyrics either considering those that do write well don’t get much play compared to the less lyrical acts
On paper should be space for both but one dominates in terms of success
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It did but punching in as a general thing would have created that still
Furthermore the general audience does not care about lyrics either considering those that do write well don’t get much play compared to the less lyrical acts
On paper should be space for both but one dominates in terms of success
The problem isn’t “there should be space for both”
It’s modern rappers not being able to do both. Like I said in a different thread, Every underground artist is either playing pretend Carti or pretend Earl
We’re just not seeing any interesting artists doing what Kanye, Drake, Cole or Kendrick did
·1 replynotbrockThe problem isn’t “there should be space for both”
It’s modern rappers not being able to do both. Like I said in a different thread, Every underground artist is either playing pretend Carti or pretend Earl
We’re just not seeing any interesting artists doing what Kanye, Drake, Cole or Kendrick did
Some of this is due to stuff bigger than rap though. Many kids have the smart laptops in class and don't write as much in paper or for essays. Downstream impacts of less investments in education is showing.
Even for those who write digitally like Drake with the infamous Blackberry, he used to be in rap forums. Rappers today get popping from social media and short vids more often, they aren't in rap forums like that.
KTT2 and other forums doesn't produce rappers like that for a reason.
Prez 💎new rappers suck. call me an old head if you want but we all know it's true.
drake kendrick and j cole are still the best for a reason - no one better has come along in the last decade
- Nayuta 🧡·1 replynotbrock
The problem isn’t “there should be space for both”
It’s modern rappers not being able to do both. Like I said in a different thread, Every underground artist is either playing pretend Carti or pretend Earl
We’re just not seeing any interesting artists doing what Kanye, Drake, Cole or Kendrick did
Who you describes are a rare breed of artist to achieve what they’ve achieved, to hold the longevity they’ve held. Most of their peers from their time can’t even say the same or hold a candle.
There’s a handful of artists in any genre that can really be in that spot in any given time period
It’s like comparing every nba player to bron. There’s like two players in the last 20 years you could say even sniff those heights. That’s a hard bar to expect and the closest they’ve had was what juice or xxx far as commercial success goes
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insertcoolnamehereThink rap just peaked lol
We have those personalities you speak of but the #powersthatbe dont put them in the algorithms the same way we do a new personality in pop. It’s interesting really.
Who are they
·2 repliesrapsIs it that or do most new rap artists debuted after 2020 no longer try to not make widespread appeal music that also has lyrical meat and potatoes like Graduation, Thank Me Later, Carter 1-3, Blueprint, GRODT, etc? Those type of artists incentivize label interest and support
Hence the question of who would those equivalents be without even getting into the label’s backing
Labels bottom line would love another Kendrick or Drake with 10/15/20 years ahead of them: hence the polarization around someone like Doechii seeming to have the industry backing you say labels aren’t incentivized to give rap that some fans feel she’s undeserving of
you're mentioning rap albums during a period of time when music labels were more hands on with A&R and marketing and advertising for their artists
the only artists who get anything close to that today are ones with pop cross over appeal like a Megbasically music labels arent music labels today
I was banking on a 50/DMX seismic shift a few years ago but oh well...
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like i said this before: most music labels dont scout for rappers anymore
rappers basically have to either exist with connections already or they have to break through the internet ceiling and get enough notice to be approached on their ownand theyd be lucky if it's by a major and not an artist owned label
blaming rap artists for the reason why rap feels at a decline is lowkey f***in stoopid
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you're mentioning rap albums during a period of time when music labels were more hands on with A&R and marketing and advertising for their artists
the only artists who get anything close to that today are ones with pop cross over appeal like a Megbasically music labels arent music labels today
(Ken Carson ^)
- ·3 repliesTakotchi
like i said this before: most music labels dont scout for rappers anymore
rappers basically have to either exist with connections already or they have to break through the internet ceiling and get enough notice to be approached on their ownand theyd be lucky if it's by a major and not an artist owned label
blaming rap artists for the reason why rap feels at a decline is lowkey f***in stoopid
But then the question becomes who are these upcoming independent rappers with big talent and crossover appeal that the labels aren't investing in
Where are they
- Takotchi
you're mentioning rap albums during a period of time when music labels were more hands on with A&R and marketing and advertising for their artists
the only artists who get anything close to that today are ones with pop cross over appeal like a Megbasically music labels arent music labels today
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But then the question becomes who are these upcoming independent rappers with big talent and crossover appeal that the labels aren't investing in
Where are they
Lmaoo at nobody being able to answer this question
- ·1 replyNayuta
Who you describes are a rare breed of artist to achieve what they’ve achieved, to hold the longevity they’ve held. Most of their peers from their time can’t even say the same or hold a candle.
There’s a handful of artists in any genre that can really be in that spot in any given time period
It’s like comparing every nba player to bron. There’s like two players in the last 20 years you could say even sniff those heights. That’s a hard bar to expect and the closest they’ve had was what juice or xxx far as commercial success goes
That level of longevity is rare but artists actually trying to achieve that shouldn’t be this low and that’s the problem
I don’t expect every artist to be Kanye level but young artists aren’t even trying. It’s like saying “I’ll never be good as bron so I’m just not even gonna play”
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Lmaoo at nobody being able to answer this question
Doechii is probably the only one right now but people call her an industry plant go figure lmao
Drake, Kendrick, and Cole all had obvious talent and star potential before they ever signed with a major label
Where are those up-and-comers right now that the labels are supposedly ignoring?
- shaleirose
But then the question becomes who are these upcoming independent rappers with big talent and crossover appeal that the labels aren't investing in
Where are they
a lot of our sound cloud era talent died off
and Im not saying they should have big talent and crossover appeal, I'm saying this is what the labels expect more today instead of molding their artists, the closest is probably doechii rn
