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  • Oct 7, 2022
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    And that structure would still take capital to maintain.

    sure, these are steps on the path to a socialist society.

    they aren't a socialist society in and of themselves.

  • Oct 7, 2022
    americana

    Inviting my neighbors to dinner (mutual aid!)

    Didn't know these potlucks at work were mutual aid

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    ABCDEF

    sure, these are steps on the path to a socialist society.

    they aren't a socialist society in and of themselves.

    You could have all these things for years lol there is only one way to actually get a socialist society

  • Oct 7, 2022
    americana

    How are you less dependent on capital when you’re buying the exact same groceries and experiencing the exact same exploitation but instead of providing for your family it’s just your neighborhood

    And everyone’s paying the same amount too. It makes no economic sense. The group cost is the same, you’re just giving the product to someone else for free. Organization should be done to fight exploitation by the system, not to disengage from it

    improving material conditions and creating a sense of community is an important step to getting people to buy into socialist ideals in this country.

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    P hard to have the working class consistently donating to each other when ppl have families to feed snd bills to pay

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    You could have all these things for years lol there is only one way to actually get a socialist society

    you need to organize labor before labor can revolt. Organized labor doesn't exist anymore, that window was closed and things like mutual aid and then dual power can reopen it.

  • Oct 7, 2022

    They talking about how to achieve socialism in a Biden thread

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    P hard to have the working class consistently donating to each other when ppl have families to feed snd bills to pay

    everybody has labor as an asset to donate to mutual aid, so yes while everybody can't donate currency, people can donate their labor and this helps them realize the value of it!
    crazy concept, I know.

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    ABCDEF

    everybody has labor as an asset to donate to mutual aid, so yes while everybody can't donate currency, people can donate their labor and this helps them realize the value of it!
    crazy concept, I know.

    They have to work their actual jobs you know

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    ABCDEF

    you need to organize labor before labor can revolt. Organized labor doesn't exist anymore, that window was closed and things like mutual aid and then dual power can reopen it.

    Union membership literally on the rise but ok

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    Union membership literally on the rise but ok

    yet unions are weaker than they ever have been

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    ABCDEF

    yet unions are weaker than they ever have been

    Reagan era

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    They have to work their actual jobs you know

    imagine this, you use time outside of your job to build community ties!

  • Oct 7, 2022
    americana

    Reagan era

    I ran contraband

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    ABCDEF

    everybody has labor as an asset to donate to mutual aid, so yes while everybody can't donate currency, people can donate their labor and this helps them realize the value of it!
    crazy concept, I know.

    Goddamn you really haven’t read a lick of s***

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    Imagine the only way for your system to function is to burn down everything that came before it

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    americana

    Goddamn you really haven’t read a lick of s***

    I have, actually. have you read Kropotkin?

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    ABCDEF

    imagine this, you use time outside of your job to build community ties!

    So like if I'm a nurse working long exhausting shifts why would I take my little bit of time off....to keep being a nurse?

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    ABCDEF

    I have, actually. have you read Kropotkin?

    Lol so you're an anarchist

  • Oct 7, 2022
    Jody

    Imagine the only way for your system to function is to burn down everything that came before it

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    Lol so you're an anarchist

    no. but once you reconcile Kropotkin's views on mutual aid with Lenin's on dual power and Marx's overall philosophies you get a pretty good sense of how a socialist society could evolve in America.

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    ABCDEF

    no. but once you reconcile Kropotkin's views on mutual aid with Lenin's on dual power and Marx's overall philosophies you get a pretty good sense of how a socialist society could evolve in America.

    So you're just taking a bunch of s*** and combining it and pretending it can be applied to 21st century America

  • Oct 7, 2022

    Really weak a***ysis

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    ABCDEF

    no. but once you reconcile Kropotkin's views on mutual aid with Lenin's on dual power and Marx's overall philosophies you get a pretty good sense of how a socialist society could evolve in America.

    NO YOU DONT

  • Oct 7, 2022
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    So like if I'm a nurse working long exhausting shifts why would I take my little bit of time off....to keep being a nurse?

    if you chose to yes, but obviously jumping to extreme examples like a Nurse who works long exhausting shifts is, well, extreme.

    but yes, a Nurse could choose to take their experience and trade it for something tangible they need from someone with a different experience.

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