Having 2 perfect rap albums back to back is honestly no small feat

Only thing Big didnt have is a huge image like Pac did smh

You think Em outrapping Kendrick / Andre / Black Thought?

“rap circles” meaning what?

Sorry but Ye has never been that number 1 dude in rap

It went from Wayne to Drake

Fame and skills are two completely different things,

Just because said people weren't "famous" dont mean he didn't go at skilled people,

He made a mockery of Canibus whos pengame is extreamly EXTREAMLY sharp,

He came up batteling people, Came second place in competition (Rap Olympic, and that other one)

The reason why people up Em (his rap peers) is because in his prime, when he collabed with you he came in strong, his pen game is dangerous.

I just named one rapper he battled but i'm sure there are more.

Btw MUSIC is SUBJECTIV,

That' was my opinion and thats it.

Best hip hop artist of all time are BIG, Pac, Dre and Ye. You can argue top 5 MCs, if you want. Those 4 made the best music in rap history. Ice Cube, Nas, BIG, Rakim, Wayne, Scarface, Andre, Jay, Em compete for the best MC category.

You're 100% right music is subjective. And, I respect your opinion.

Yes
Hell yes
And maybe

Dont get me wrong I dont think the Em we have today could but Em at his peak was a monster and was widely respected for a reason

Biggie is unequivocally the best rapper of all time to me and that will never change. Sorry OP

Basically Biggie, Jay, Nas and Pac are the top 4 in whatever order you wanna put them, the 5th spot is arguable, but not by someone who doesn’t even write his own s***

Eminem…

I agree Big ain’t in my top 5 fav rapper list just for lack of material but if we talking top 5 most skilled he’s definitely in there

Pac is not top 5 as an all around artist imo either, I may be biased bc I wasn’t old enough to experience the wave but his larger than life personality caries his legacy a lot more than his actual talent/music/discog.

He had a great voice and extremely passionate and engaging delivery but his technical ability was pretty average. 2pacalyspe now has some gems and is classic in the “this is a cool ass old rap album” type of way but it’s not a masterpiece on the level of Illmatic, Ready to Die, Reasonable Doubt, College Dropout, GKMC, etc

S4MN is pretty much good bc of the singles (I get around etc)

MATW is Pac magnum opus and a true masterpiece pac best album imo

I’m not mad at anyone who thinks AEOM is a masterpiece but I don’t, great album but I can’t listen to it in one sitting, too much filler

Don killuminati is raw asf which works for the most part but a lot of the songs are rough to the point that they sound poorly executed

And then ofc all that posthumous s*** is irrelevant

Lastly Eminem doesn’t have a spot in my top 5 either. Top 10 for sure but not top 5. 2 reasons:

1)well over 50% of his discog is unlistenable (sslp, MMLP & Eminem show his only great albums)

2)his subject matter is limited asf. When he’s not talking about his trauma or being a degenerate he literally sounds lost which is why his later albums are so bad.

The true top 6 ever hip/hop artist in no particular order (can’t pick 5)

Jay-Z
Kanye West
Nas
Lil Wayne
Drake
Kendrick Lamar

depends on the list. as an MC hell no but as a hiphop artist you can argue Ye one of the most influential of all time

This. People be debating two different things. The skill argument is wayyyy too subjective so it’s pointless imo but the greatest artist debate can definitely be supported by actual facts

Nigga took b.i.g off for eminem, you can't tell this not white supremacy at work

I can see why too but at the same time,BIGS two classics hold more weight than Em’s 3. All those Em albums were of their time but were influential for that era while LAD and RTD are still standard bearers in Hip Hop.

Hell nah bruh lmaoooo

y’all letting the dust cloud your glasses, kanye is #1, wayne #2, jay #3

Yea you can say that but the number of people Waybe has influenced and the impact they made is even greater.

All of the young rappers coming up now cite Wayne as making them want to rap

And thats way more important than influencing a Paul McCartney 50 years past his prime 🤷🏿‍♂️

If BIG gets taken off the list then so should 2Pac. The first 3 Pac albums don't come close to Ready to Die.