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  • Dec 13, 2021
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    thegreatdivine

    Wayne didn't "make" Drake. Drake already had his skill, talent and work ethic built up when he met Wayne. All Wayne did was give him a record deal and push him for like 1-2 years.

    If Drake didn't have the skill and the talent, noting Wayne did would have mattered.

    If drake didn’t have Wayne co sign, teach him, and push him, Drake wouldn’t have had the amount of commercial success he had that early on in his career

    Saying the word made/make was a poor choice of words

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    KalamariFromParty

    I realized this when Tyler Herro came out in 2020 but never made a thread so here you go

    Drake about to pass the torch to him soon, he just came to his concert last night & invited him to his crib today

    If Jack gets a drake feat , it’s over
    He’s already 23rd most listened to artist in the world on Spotify (Kanye is 24th, for reference)

    Jack Harlow is 29th
    Kanye is 23rd

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    It really depends if he can make hit on hits and drop good albums. If not dont even make the comparison

    He def has potential to be a consistently big rapper tho

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    NewLondon21

    Roddy’s debut album dropped a year before Jack’s. They the same age but Roddy got more hits, does bigger numbers, and he does the singing s*** AND YET you call Jack the next Drake

    roddy isnt lightskin enough to be the next drake lol. Reason they saying Jack is cause he's white and easily marketable

  • I like Jack but his music isn’t good enough so I doubt it

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  • Dec 13, 2021
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    I don’t see him dropping an album on par with drakes early ones anytime soon

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    Y0rn

    Jack Harlow is 29th
    Kanye is 23rd

    Yes, thank you for replying 4 weeks later when the numbers changed

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    That’s What They All Say, Jack Harlow’s album, was the 5th most streamed hip hop album this year on Spotify, with only CLB, DONDA, Polo G Album and J Cole album ahead of it

  • Dec 13, 2021
    KalamariFromParty

    That’s What They All Say, Jack Harlow’s album, was the 5th most streamed hip hop album this year on Spotify, with only CLB, DONDA, Polo G Album and J Cole album ahead of it

    Ok Jack, relax. You’re the next drake bro.

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    KalamariFromParty

    Yes, thank you for replying 4 weeks later when the numbers changed

    It shows Ye is steady tho

  • Dec 13, 2021

    They grow up so fast

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    KalamariFromParty

    If drake didn’t have Wayne co sign, teach him, and push him, Drake wouldn’t have had the amount of commercial success he had that early on in his career

    Saying the word made/make was a poor choice of words

    I get your point. I'm just saying that a superstar like Drake being made goes beyond just a cosign and a push. And there's also the fact that Drake surpassed any expectations Wayne or anyone else had for him. By March 2010, Wayne was locked up and Drake was on his own. He went beyond Wayne's push and kept getting bigger commercially throughout the decade. His unprecedented 13-year run isn't because of Wayne. That's all him.

    I just think calling Jack Harlow the next Drake is setting him up to fail. At 23, Drake was a lot farther ahead in his career than Jack is and it's not even like Drake's run is over or he's slowing down. It's a losing battle any way you try to slice it.

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    spatooogiblibibly

    I don’t see him dropping an album on par with drakes early ones anytime soon

    At 23, Drake had dropped Comeback Season and So Far Gone (So Far Gone is the mixtape that's widely regarded as a classic in hip-hop circles mostly because it was his best body of work until that point and it's what broke Drake into the mainstream but Comeback Season is also an underrated classic of sorts, especially amongst OG Drake fans). To add to that, Thank Me Later was a more solid debut album than Jack's debut album and Drake recorded Take Care when he was 24. Don't see Jack doing any of that tbh.

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    coolguy12

    roddy isnt lightskin enough to be the next drake lol. Reason they saying Jack is cause he's white and easily marketable

    Not being lightskinned didn't stop Roddy from scoring 2 #1 hits last year. He already has a solo Diamond hit record to his name.

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    thegreatdivine

    At 23, Drake had dropped Comeback Season and So Far Gone (So Far Gone is the mixtape that's widely regarded as a classic in hip-hop circles mostly because it was his best body of work until that point and it's what broke Drake into the mainstream but Comeback Season is also an underrated classic of sorts, especially amongst OG Drake fans). To add to that, Thank Me Later was a more solid debut album than Jack's debut album and Drake recorded Take Care when he was 24. Don't see Jack doing any of that tbh.

    You never know. There was a time no one would surpass Nelly's run and reach and he was doing similar sing song rap Drake does. Jack has a chance to take that style further beyond Drake especially since hip hop is now the status of pop music compared to when Drake started.

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    Y0rn

    It really depends if he can make hit on hits and drop good albums. If not dont even make the comparison

    He def has potential to be a consistently big rapper tho

    I don't think so. White rappers are a lot more dispensable. They come and go. People forget that once upon a time, Macklemore had 2 massive #1 hits and was dominating the charts. Before we knew it, he was over. Same got G-Eazy. Had a good run of some steady hits but now his music doesn't do s*** and he's basically over. I can bet the exact same thing will happen to Jack Harlow. The only white rapper that's been able to have real longevity commercially is Eminem and he was the first.

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    Iron Lion Zion

    You never know. There was a time no one would surpass Nelly's run and reach and he was doing similar sing song rap Drake does. Jack has a chance to take that style further beyond Drake especially since hip hop is now the status of pop music compared to when Drake started.

    Nelly's run didn't last up to 5 years. It started in 2000 and by 2004 it was done. Jack can't take the singing/rapping style which Drake revolutionized further because he isn't even as technically gifted as Drake. Drake was singing as early as 2007 on Comeback Season. In 2009, on So Far Gone, he had honed those skills well enough to make decent R&B cuts. 21 year-old Drake was going toe to toe with prime 2008 Wayne on songs, enough to have Wayne legitimately impressed and Drake was holding his own against other legends by 2010.

    It's really not close. Jack obviously has the ability to become a much better rapper and make better music but he doesn't have the ear for beats Drake does. He doesn't understand how to use melody the way Drake does and can't sing like Drake does. There's nothing he will do now that won't be a reductive version of what Drake has already done and there are other already other rappers around Jack's age group who use melody a lot better than he does so as far as pushing the envelope of what Drake has already done even further, I honestly don't see that happening.

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    thegreatdivine

    I don't think so. White rappers are a lot more dispensable. They come and go. People forget that once upon a time, Macklemore had 2 massive #1 hits and was dominating the charts. Before we knew it, he was over. Same got G-Eazy. Had a good run of some steady hits but now his music doesn't do s*** and he's basically over. I can bet the exact same thing will happen to Jack Harlow. The only white rapper that's been able to have real longevity commercially is Eminem and he was the first.

    Macklemore i would say was a result of networking and connections to the right people because his record deal was mainly distribution only. His run was never meant to extend long anyway.

    And G Eazy blew up at the tail end of the blog era just before Soundcloud and streaming really took off. Jack has the benefit of being very young and blowing up when streaming is now full on mainstream which gives more opportunities to artists compared to the past. His run will definitely extend past most other white rappers of the past except maybe Eminem. He already has major cosigns.

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    thegreatdivine

    Not being lightskinned didn't stop Roddy from scoring 2 #1 hits last year. He already has a solo Diamond hit record to his name.

    we comparing him to drake numbers. I don't see him ever touching his numbers at all. Fetty wap got a diamond solo song and some top 10 hits too. We gotta see his longevity

  • Dec 13, 2021
    coolguy12

    we comparing him to drake numbers. I don't see him ever touching his numbers at all. Fetty wap got a diamond solo song and some top 10 hits too. We gotta see his longevity

    I wasn't trying to say Roddy would ever be big as Drake.

  • Dec 13, 2021
    Iron Lion Zion

    Macklemore i would say was a result of networking and connections to the right people because his record deal was mainly distribution only. His run was never meant to extend long anyway.

    And G Eazy blew up at the tail end of the blog era just before Soundcloud and streaming really took off. Jack has the benefit of being very young and blowing up when streaming is now full on mainstream which gives more opportunities to artists compared to the past. His run will definitely extend past most other white rappers of the past except maybe Eminem. He already has major cosigns.

    I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

  • Dec 13, 2021

    Calling anybody the next Drake is setting them up to fail lmao. Just putting otherworldy expectations on them. Thats like calling any high school recruit the next jordan or lebron

  • Dec 13, 2021
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    Y0rn

    It shows Ye is steady tho

    Ye isn’t steady. He just had an album come out and then a deluxe version of that album, with a once in a lifetime concert performance the other day as well
    Talking about his numbers rn after all of those anomalies doesn’t indicate we are at his average right now

  • Dec 13, 2021
    thegreatdivine

    Nelly's run didn't last up to 5 years. It started in 2000 and by 2004 it was done. Jack can't take the singing/rapping style which Drake revolutionized further because he isn't even as technically gifted as Drake. Drake was singing as early as 2007 on Comeback Season. In 2009, on So Far Gone, he had honed those skills well enough to make decent R&B cuts. 21 year-old Drake was going toe to toe with prime 2008 Wayne on songs, enough to have Wayne legitimately impressed and Drake was holding his own against other legends by 2010.

    It's really not close. Jack obviously has the ability to become a much better rapper and make better music but he doesn't have the ear for beats Drake does. He doesn't understand how to use melody the way Drake does and can't sing like Drake does. There's nothing he will do now that won't be a reductive version of what Drake has already done and there are other already other rappers around Jack's age group who use melody a lot better than he does so as far as pushing the envelope of what Drake has already done even further, I honestly don't see that happening.

    Unless drake signs Jack and takes him under his wing. Which would let drake teach Jack a lot of that stuff

    Which was the whole premise of this thread

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