Dawg was the ultimate coon being buddy buddy with the devil it pissed me off so much damn near felt like he was a sociopath like he’s so selfish I didn’t finish the movie but boooy this is making me mad

Lmao bro I knew I recognized him from somewhere

he definitely had sociopathic tendencies...kept wanting him to do the right thing...shit I wanted Mitchell to do the right thing as well bc it clearly shows he wasn't down with Hoover's question about his daughter but then backs down and goes through with a cold blooded assassination smh I had never read that deep into Hampton's story and always was under the impression he was killed in an actual gunfight and not in his sleep...watching it play out and knowing they got away with that s*** disgusts me tbh

Link to where he said this?

not only that, the pigs had the audacity to lie after the fact and say the panthers started the gunfight

S*** got nasty when they started giving him nicknames and then when Fred thanks him for rebuilding the headquarters

Lakeith did a great job of displaying how that s*** got more foul the deeper he got in

But then you go look up the real guys feelings on it and s*** just make u mad lol

another thing that f***ed me up is Fred always seems to not fully trust Bill...constantly giving him these uneasy looks...similar to how the real Jesus supposedly knew Judas would be the one to betray him and how the Bible story plays out...they're all eating together similar to the last supper...obviously there'd be symbolism given the title of the film but still shook me

where did u watch this

don’t say cinema

Honestly thought they were gonna say f*** it and bake his beans when he started stuttering about how he used to steal cars

Lowkey wish they did lmao

i havent watched it

loved Black KKKlansman til I discovered the main cop in that mostly worked undercover in black panther groups and similar parties...that film paints it like a good vs evil thing for him when really it was just another job for dude...like I respect the story Spike was tryna tell with that but just annoys me how much gets glossed over

Yeah I think that was a huge missed opportunity here to get 2 older men to play Hampton/William

daniel kaluuya was next level in this tho

not only that but most of how they portrayed the KKK encounter was fabricated in the movie. They didn't have any kind of bombing plot and no racist cops were arrested irl.

So most of the movie is just pointless glamorizing of a dude who did far more damage to the Black Panthers than he ever did to the KKK

i feel bad whenever i see lakeith i just see lakeith lmao

no matter what role. he was great in this tho every scene he was killing it

Film did its job. Powerful and emotional

I definitely know the bombing was fake...IMO though everything after the bombing was SUPPOSED to be a fantasy sequence...like in a perfect world he would get congratulated for it, the racist cops would get arrested, he would have support from the rest of his department...then you get that last montage of real life footage and it knocks you back into reality...I do know the KKK bomb scene was made up for the film though and Ron never called David Duke to give himself away like in the film...Duke found out years later...my issue was just making Ron out to be a real warrior against the Klan or some s*** when really it was one case amongst many others where he was infiltrating black organizations and helping to bring them down...a lot of what he claims to be true can't even be backed up because the evidence of the case was mostly destroyed in a fire

I get why Spike did the bomb thing even though it was stupid he just felt it needed a big action sequence...kinda fell into the same trap with Da 5 Bloods IMO which is a terrific character piece until it dissolves into a f***ing 90's action movie the last 15 minutes or so

some indie developers or whatever need to make an actual fred biopic

I think da 5 bloods works a lot better thanks to it not directly being a true story. So while there are very fictional aspects to it, spike gets to make a partial genre movie out of it so that works

But with BK, it really does just come off as a distortion of real events to glamorize a bad person and to try hard in making a MAGA parallel to the KKK. It’s just very lazy filmmaking. I’m not sure about how this film depicts the real events either but I do notice a number of “real events” films these days are extremely inaccurate. Like When They See Us is such a blatantly untrue account of what happened that it’s genuinely dangerous art.

from what I've read about from fact checking sites about Judas and the Black Messiah the only things they took real liberty with are Hoover's role (turns out he did have knowledge of the raid but they didn't know that when they were writing the film), the relationship dynamic between Bill and Mitchell, and I believe some of the events of the raid shootout are out of order (they kill Hampton last in the film whereas in real life they killed him and then shot at the people in the neighboring room so that part is out of order)

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