shaleirose

1y

Pretty good a***ysis. Agree with everything here

I will say though it does feel like, to the younger generation, that Justin just isn’t “cool” at all to them. Like he definitely evokes the feeling of a major label popstar from a different time period. Not even just in things like how he dances but how he moves just in general when it comes to releasing and rolling out new music. Like he’s teasing songs on NFL commercials and doing appearances on the Kelly Clarkson Show (no disrespect to her), these are just such outdated ways to rollout a project and I feel like there’s more he could be doing to connect to a newer audience. All of the personal s*** definitely hurts him though because Stan Twitter loves to be overdramatic and villainize people

IBelongToYou

1y

I can't tell if Justin's team is tone-death, scared, or feel as Justin is above being on platforms like Drink Champs.

It would be nice to see him do something out of the box for once when it comes to promotion.

IBelongToYou

1y

I can't tell if Justin's team is tone-death, scared, or feel as Justin is above being on platforms like Drink Champs.

It would be nice to see him do something out of the box for once when it comes to promotion.

Botney

1y

Definitely the best JT feature since 2018

IBelongToYou

1y

I can't tell if Justin's team is tone-death, scared, or feel as Justin is above being on platforms like Drink Champs.

It would be nice to see him do something out of the box for once when it comes to promotion.

JayZOfTheSouth

1y

I know Drink Champs would happily welcome JT lol

Nore being drunk might ask him about all Britney stuff tho lol

TheInstigator

1y

this was better imo

TheInstigator

1y

they definitely gonna ask him "Britney or Christina Aguilera"

JayZOfTheSouth

1y

Agreed this was much better

TheInstigator

1y

From what you have heard of the new stuff, do you think this is going to be seen as a comeback from MOTW?

JayZOfTheSouth

1y

100%

Idk if this song will make the final tracklist but it's gonna be a dope joint. This song alone (for me) is better than MOTW lol

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CQ_uHsJpSm2/

TheInstigator

1y

I love his first 3 and honestly even half of 20/20 pt 2 is fantastic imo (Amnesia, You Got it On, Drink you Away are amazing songs imo) but yeah MOTW was just a straight up miss for me besides Midnight Summer Jam.

Still very excited for this because JT remains my favorite pop star of the 21st century.

paradise valley

1y

There are many reasons

First, I think the 20/20 era started well. S&T first single (hit), Mirrors second single (smash hit) + Holy Grail

Then, Tunnel Vision, which was the obvious choice for 3rd single (or maybe LTGGI) had a bad release. No promo, explicit video (YouTube was still king). This song could’ve easily been a hit… but they fumbled

Then he started the 2 of 2 era which was A MASSIVE MISTAKE. It all starts HERE.

I love that album, but it shouldn’t have been released as a sequel to 20/20 which was already a perfect project. And also, not so soon. 20/20 could’ve easily had more singles. That Girl could’ve been big in the fall… Maybe Spaceship Coupe

The GP didn’t really feel the 2 of 2 singles. Take Back The Night, TKO… they are good songs but not as good as the first album. Also, I think some people were kinda over the long songs (True Blood, OWIWA) at this point.

However, that album is GOOD but got a ~bad~ reception because it felt like b-sides. In a sense, the same could be said about Dawn FM. It came when After Hours was still big and the GP didn’t really “want” a new album yet.

2 of 2 should’ve been released in 2014 with another name and aesthetic. Should’ve been it’s own thing. It’s truly a great album that was cannibalized by its precedor

Ok, then there was Trolls, Can’t Stop The Feeling…

Then, I don’t know what happened exactly, but around 2017 a lot of discussions started about the Janet Jackson thing, which was part of a lot of other discussions relating to other subjects like race, gender (which was already going on for years) Around this time, Bruno Mars also had a backlash

[Actually, I just remembered that this all started in 2016 when Jesse Williams made a speech on BET Awards and Justin praised him on twitter, then some people started replying and quoting talking about the Janet thing, cultural appropriation, etc. I really think Justin was truly taken aback by the reactions, because I feel like this was the first time he publicly dealt with this backlash. That same night, he said something like “there’s only one race: human race” 💀]

He starts the MOTW era in January 2018… but the rollout was a mess. I think the whole concept of the album is kinda bad. Man vs machine? Montana? Woods?

People thought the album would be mixing country with pop. It wasn’t very clear what he was trying to do.

Filthy, the first single, was… a lot. I think Supplies slaps but that video with the MeToo thing was ???

But it doesn’t matter, the backlash had started. So, as it always happen, a lot of old stuff comes back. People started talking about his relationship with Britney, the Prince diss, the Janet thing again, etc

Super Bowl: Prince homage. Another bad decision.

At this point, the era was over.

Then in 2019, there was the cheating scandal. And then, the Britney thing which repeaked again last year with her book coming out.

So it’s a mix of many different things which has caused this. Not gonna lie, Justin might really be a kinda of a****** in real life, especially when he was on the top of the world. But who cares honestly? I just like his music, it’s not like he committed a crime. Lots of celebs are like this

But the way some people started hating him online is so forced. I realized that it’s a very specific demographic: older millennial women and gay men that stan pop girls. The type that would read subreddits like Fauxmoi or popculturechat. This crowd essentially crowned Justin as a villain 🫠

The younger generation doesn’t know his music. He doesn’t appeal to them. He just looks from “a different generation”… he’s not “cool”

Remember that viral video of him dancing? An example of him not appealing to people nowadays. I really think he should leave that type of dancing behind. It’s too dated. No one dances like this anymore.

But let’s see what’s planned for this next era. His audience is +35 at this point. The focus should be introducing him to a new generation.

JayZOfTheSouth

1y

100%

Idk if this song will make the final tracklist but it's gonna be a dope joint. This song alone (for me) is better than MOTW lol

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CQ_uHsJpSm2/

beachdude

1y

Is Sanctified the most “Man of the Woods-esque” track out of what you’ve heard? Some people seem to be worried that one is too similar to MOTW but I could see it going either way personally

JayZOfTheSouth

1y

Sanctified doesn't remind me of MOTW at all. It reminds me of Only When I Walk Away from 20/20 part 2

Sanctified has piano and drums which sounds like it can be on a Trap song. Almost sounds like 2023 Pharrell

TheInstigator

1y

this was better imo

IBelongToYou

1y

I can't tell if Justin's team is tone-death, scared, or feel as Justin is above being on platforms like Drink Champs.

It would be nice to see him do something out of the box for once when it comes to promotion.

JayZOfTheSouth

1y

Never understood why this wasn't a single and why no music video for it