The nigga has told us hundreds of times both on wax and in interviews that numbers are his main motivation, yet his stans think he doesn’t care about them because he doesn’t do bundles
He doesn’t care to CHASE them. He loves that it naturally happens. Someone who is OBSESSED with maximizing their numbers to look good every drop is Travis Scott. That dude has bundled every release and hypnotized people into thinking he’s a 300k plus first week artist. His latest release didn’t even chart on the hot 100 😭. DUDE IS BUNDLING A RERELEASE MIXTAPE. Drake just don’t care how he drops, he knows he’s the biggest out
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i’ve always said that artists dropping projects to cater to all their fans is an easy way to make the worst project of their career
Nicki dropped an album where all the songs were rap with a tinge of pop (Pink Friday) and everyone considered it a classic
her next album had a variety of rap songs & pop songs that couldn’t sound more different from each other sonically, and it’s considered her worst album by most
cater to just one side of your fanbase if you wanna make an actual great album. catering to everyone results in corporate slop. there’s a reason HNvm has a very dedicated fanbase that you don’t see with albums like CLB or FatD
ngl i do agree his albums would be better received if he focused on one sound/“vibe” each time but i personally don’t care if it’s all mixed up, clb and fatd sequencing feel weird tho idk how to explain
Is this thread still about the song or we pushing agendas again?
He doesn’t care to CHASE them. He loves that it naturally happens. Someone who is OBSESSED with maximizing their numbers to look good every drop is Travis Scott. That dude has bundled every release and hypnotized people into thinking he’s a 300k plus first week artist. His latest release didn’t even chart on the hot 100 😭. DUDE IS BUNDLING A RERELEASE MIXTAPE. Drake just don’t care how he drops, he knows he’s the biggest out

You know the rules when it comes to Drake 🤣😂
It’s always an agenda
Look who he just followed
Surely right after a "what are the kids listening to these days" google search
The "twitter blogs" were picking up the story that he unfollowed Drake and refollowed him again
Sounds about right, not standing on it is what got him in the dog house in the first place
i’ve always said that artists dropping projects to cater to all their fans is an easy way to make the worst project of their career
Nicki dropped an album where all the songs were rap with a tinge of pop (Pink Friday) and everyone considered it a classic
her next album had a variety of rap songs & pop songs that couldn’t sound more different from each other sonically, and it’s considered her worst album by most
cater to just one side of your fanbase if you wanna make an actual great album. catering to everyone results in corporate slop. there’s a reason HNvm has a very dedicated fanbase that you don’t see with albums like CLB or FatD
This is a wrong take because there are a whole lot of CLB truthers out there and the same is already happening for FATD. You can't really say this about Drake because since Drake blew up, he's always catered to more than one fanbase and he's made classics doing that.
The nigga has told us hundreds of times both on wax and in interviews that numbers are his main motivation, yet his stans think he doesn’t care about them because he doesn’t do bundles
How does him bragging about his numbers (which he has ever right to do) mean he only cares about numbers?
It’s already a classic cause they took Yachty off
his discography averaged 18,25 songs per project before 2016 and after that averages 22 per project, idk seems like he always enjoyed long projects
Not sure where you got that number from unless you’re including Room for Improvement and Comeback Season which: 1. Nobody ever includes when discussing Drake, and 2: had skits and interludes that his other projects don’t.
His average from 2009-2015 is 15 songs per project
His average from 2016-now is exactly 20 songs per project
How does him bragging about his numbers (which he has ever right to do) mean he only cares about numbers?
I never said that he only cares about numbers
I said they are his main motivation
Y’all are acting like he doesn’t care about them at all
I never said that he only cares about numbers
I said they are his main motivation
Y’all are acting like he doesn’t care about them at all
I think its pretty obvious his main motivation is money lol
This is a wrong take because there are a whole lot of CLB truthers out there and the same is already happening for FATD. You can't really say this about Drake because since Drake blew up, he's always catered to more than one fanbase and he's made classics doing that.
has he though?
up until WATTBA, i’d say his projects were mostly focused on a single style each, or at most a very narrow spectrum of styles (i.e. NWTS has styles ranging from Worst Behavior to HOWGH, but they’re still similar enough that they can work well on the same album)
Views is where he widened that spectrum of styles he tried to fit onto one album, and you could even see it happening in real time when he dropped One Dance & Pop Style together with opposing single cover arts
the spectrum got so wide on Scorpion that he had to split the album in 2, and the project as a whole felt bloated as a result
HNvm & Her Loss are his best projects since 2015 because he really focused in on one style each the entire time with them
I never said that he only cares about numbers
I said they are his main motivation
Y’all are acting like he doesn’t care about them at all
How are they his main motivation? Because his music is commercially successful? It's not even like he's a rapper like Flo Rida who tailors ALL his music towards being pop hits. MOST songs in Drake's catalog are album cuts that won't work on radio or the charts. Is it the R&B ballads that are made for the charts or the super lyrical records that are made for the charts?
You sound like someone who has only ever listened to the Drake songs being played on radio before making this kind of statement.
has he though?
up until WATTBA, i’d say his projects were mostly focused on a single style each, or at most a very narrow spectrum of styles (i.e. NWTS has styles ranging from Worst Behavior to HOWGH, but they’re still similar enough that they can work well on the same album)
Views is where he widened that spectrum of styles he tried to fit onto one album, and you could even see it happening in real time when he dropped One Dance & Pop Style together with opposing single cover arts
the spectrum got so wide on Scorpion that he had to split the album in 2, and the project as a whole felt bloated as a result
HNvm & Her Loss are his best projects since 2015 because he really focused in on one style each the entire time with them
Yeah, you lost me with your take about Scorpion. Scorpion is just Drake doing rap/R&B with 1 pop song thrown in there, so I don't get where you're seeing that he did SO MANY STYLES on that album. Views/More Life are his projects with the most variations sonically. Every album after that has stuck to his usual rap/R&B mix.
I think its pretty obvious his main motivation is money lol
Valid opinion.
I just don't think you make a Scary Hours 3 for money. Or adding overly long intros to songs like IDGAF or TSU for "money". You don't get skits made by Snoop for money either.
Throwing Bad Bunny on the album on a bs song is a money grab tho.
I feel this convo is more nuanced and not one dimensional.
has he though?
up until WATTBA, i’d say his projects were mostly focused on a single style each, or at most a very narrow spectrum of styles (i.e. NWTS has styles ranging from Worst Behavior to HOWGH, but they’re still similar enough that they can work well on the same album)
Views is where he widened that spectrum of styles he tried to fit onto one album, and you could even see it happening in real time when he dropped One Dance & Pop Style together with opposing single cover arts
the spectrum got so wide on Scorpion that he had to split the album in 2, and the project as a whole felt bloated as a result
HNvm & Her Loss are his best projects since 2015 because he really focused in on one style each the entire time with them
Scorpion may be bloated but its not "all styles" like CLB or Views or More Life or even FAT D
Of course Drake cares about numbers. No one denied that. What people are denying is this insistence that he's obsessed with numbers and numbers are his main reason for making music. That's factually incorrect. Someone obsessed with numbers wouldn't refrain from engaging in all the industry practices to boost their numbers the way Drake does. Someone obsessed with numbers wouldn't butcher numerous releases, which in turn affect how well the songs chart. Someone obsessed with numbers wouldn't have a "marketing plan" for their music that started and ended with "post album album on social media once and never again."
Yes, like all artists, Drake likes that his music is commercially successful and would prefer if it remained so. The point being made is that he doesn't resort to any of the usual industry tactics to ensure that success the way most other artists do. He drops his music and moves on, usually never speaking of it again or promoting it outside of playing the songs at shows. That's not someone whose main focus is numbers. You're confusing him for Taylor Swift.