Aug 20, 2024
K DOG 99Scorpion may be bloated but its not "all styles" like CLB or Views or More Life or even FAT D
Yeah, I don't know where he was going with that.
- Aug 20, 2024·3 replies
It's very obvious that a lot of the disdain y'all have for Drake is just because he has remained commercially successful his entire career. I don't know why anyone who be so angered by that but y'all are f***ing weirdos when it comes to Drake so I guess I shouldn't be that surprised.
- Aug 20, 2024
ICEY MEECHY
SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻Aug 20, 2024·1 replythegreatdivineYeah, you lost me with your take about Scorpion. Scorpion is just Drake doing rap/R&B with 1 pop song thrown in there, so I don't get where you're seeing that he did SO MANY STYLES on that album. Views/More Life are his projects with the most variations sonically. Every album after that has stuck to his usual rap/R&B mix.
Side A & Side B are completely different wym
i agree with the rest of what you said here though, but i think after Scorpion, the Rap/R&B mix stopped working as well because he didn’t keep the production consistent
like i mentioned with NWTS, Worst Behavior & HOWGH work on the same album because they still sound similar through the production
the Rap and the R&B songs on CLB for example don’t have a clear sonic theme that really ties them together, but that take is very opinion-based so you probably don’t agree lol
Aug 20, 2024ICEY MEECHY 
Aug 20, 2024K DOG 99I think its pretty obvious his main motivation is money lol
Yeah, which is boosted by numbers
- SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻Aug 20, 2024·2 repliesK DOG 99
Scorpion may be bloated but its not "all styles" like CLB or Views or More Life or even FAT D
maybe i gotta listen to Scorpion again bc from what i remember, Sides A&B sounded very different, but they were still bloated on their own, and especially bloated when put together
- SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻Aug 20, 2024·1 replythegreatdivine
Of course Drake cares about numbers. No one denied that. What people are denying is this insistence that he's obsessed with numbers and numbers are his main reason for making music. That's factually incorrect. Someone obsessed with numbers wouldn't refrain from engaging in all the industry practices to boost their numbers the way Drake does. Someone obsessed with numbers wouldn't butcher numerous releases, which in turn affect how well the songs chart. Someone obsessed with numbers wouldn't have a "marketing plan" for their music that started and ended with "post album album on social media once and never again."
Yes, like all artists, Drake likes that his music is commercially successful and would prefer if it remained so. The point being made is that he doesn't resort to any of the usual industry tactics to ensure that success the way most other artists do. He drops his music and moves on, usually never speaking of it again or promoting it outside of playing the songs at shows. That's not someone whose main focus is numbers. You're confusing him for Taylor Swift.
idk if this is a continuation of the response to me but idc about numbers or charts really at all
i understand catering to a widening fanbase to make sure you maintain everyone, but my personal opinion is that as an artist, you should always say f*** the audience
Aug 20, 2024WT777Drake doesn't care about numbers he just brags about them nonstop for the lolz
There’s a difference between bragging about your numbers and doing every trick in the book you can to get higher numbers lol. He obviously cares but isn’t as interested in playing the industry game as his peers
- Aug 20, 2024·1 replySABMAN TURNT
has he though?
up until WATTBA, i’d say his projects were mostly focused on a single style each, or at most a very narrow spectrum of styles (i.e. NWTS has styles ranging from Worst Behavior to HOWGH, but they’re still similar enough that they can work well on the same album)
Views is where he widened that spectrum of styles he tried to fit onto one album, and you could even see it happening in real time when he dropped One Dance & Pop Style together with opposing single cover arts
the spectrum got so wide on Scorpion that he had to split the album in 2, and the project as a whole felt bloated as a result
HNvm & Her Loss are his best projects since 2015 because he really focused in on one style each the entire time with them
Bro you keep hitting it right on the money
Every project from So Far Gone to WATTBA had a distinct and cohesive style, vision, and theme.
He may have dabbled between rap and R&B throughout those albums, but all of the songs were rooted in the same artistic world.
Nowadays, we get projects from him where songs like Fountains, Way 2 Sexy, and F***ing Fans all exist on the same body of work, and it comes across like a jumbled mess.
And exactly like you said, the main reason that Honestly, Nevermind and Her Loss are his most loved projects since 2015 are because they both have a singular artistic focus in the same way that all of his 2009-2015 projects did
- Aug 20, 2024·1 replyTheFader
The nigga has told us hundreds of times both on wax and in interviews that numbers are his main motivation, yet his stans think he doesn’t care about them because he doesn’t do bundles
He never said “numbers are my main motivation when it comes to music” cut the bs lmao
- Aug 20, 2024·1 replySABMAN TURNT
Side A & Side B are completely different wym
i agree with the rest of what you said here though, but i think after Scorpion, the Rap/R&B mix stopped working as well because he didn’t keep the production consistent
like i mentioned with NWTS, Worst Behavior & HOWGH work on the same album because they still sound similar through the production
the Rap and the R&B songs on CLB for example don’t have a clear sonic theme that really ties them together, but that take is very opinion-based so you probably don’t agree lol
My point is that Drake has always made a mix of rap/melodic rap & R&B music, dating back as far as So Far Gone. Yes, he might diversify the styles of rap like dabbling in New Orleans bounce or trap rap or more lyrical/boom-bap rap on other songs but they're all under the same umbrella of rap, even the melodic rap songs. Same goes for his R&B songs. He usually used to throw in 1 or 2 pop songs as well but he's since stopped doing that on his rap albums so they're usually just a mix of rap/R&B. That can't be taken as him trying a wide variety of styles when that's what he blew up doing and is what he has always done. Albums like Views/More Life are his most diverse projects sonically and in terms of the regional sounds he takes on but that's about it. HN is a dance album. Her Loss is a rap album. For All the Dogs is the usual rap/R&B Drake we get.
- Aug 20, 2024·1 replythegreatdivine
How are they his main motivation? Because his music is commercially successful? It's not even like he's a rapper like Flo Rida who tailors ALL his music towards being pop hits. MOST songs in Drake's catalog are album cuts that won't work on radio or the charts. Is it the R&B ballads that are made for the charts or the super lyrical records that are made for the charts?
You sound like someone who has only ever listened to the Drake songs being played on radio before making this kind of statement.
Because. The nigga. Has told us. For fifteen. Years.
Aug 20, 2024thegreatdivineIt's very obvious that a lot of the disdain y'all have for Drake is just because he has remained commercially successful his entire career. I don't know why anyone who be so angered by that but y'all are f***ing weirdos when it comes to Drake so I guess I shouldn't be that surprised.
- Aug 20, 2024Elemental
He never said “numbers are my main motivation when it comes to music” cut the bs lmao
Imagine thinking all he cares about are numbers simply because he brags about his numbers from time to time. Like yeah, if I was the biggest rapper of all time, I would never stop talking my s*** and reminding you niggas, the f***?
- Aug 20, 2024SABMAN TURNT
maybe i gotta listen to Scorpion again bc from what i remember, Sides A&B sounded very different, but they were still bloated on their own, and especially bloated when put together
Listening as A-Side 12 Tracks, B-Side 13 Tracks comes out to Two incredible albums imo. Which is how you would listen on CD or Vinyl.
- Aug 20, 2024·2 replies
Bragging about your accolades doesn’t make that your main motivation. Drake’s main motivation was always about his love for music lol. Making it big is the dream, but at its core, having a love for the craft is the main motivation
- Aug 20, 2024SABMAN TURNT
idk if this is a continuation of the response to me but idc about numbers or charts really at all
i understand catering to a widening fanbase to make sure you maintain everyone, but my personal opinion is that as an artist, you should always say f*** the audience
Do you think Drake made Honestly, Nevermind because he was trying to cater to his rap fanbase? He has always done whatever he wants. He dabbles in different regions and sounds before they even start popping mainstream-wise because he's naturally curious as an artist and likes to try s*** out. That's all there is to it. Y'all only see it as him doing it for numbers because they usually work but it's always a risk.
- Aug 20, 2024SABMAN TURNT
maybe i gotta listen to Scorpion again bc from what i remember, Sides A&B sounded very different, but they were still bloated on their own, and especially bloated when put together
Side A was rap, side B was rap/R&B.
- Aug 20, 2024Elemental
Bragging about your accolades doesn’t make that your main motivation. Drake’s main motivation was always about his love for music lol. Making it big is the dream, but at its core, having a love for the craft is the main motivation
It's niggas who legit think that him being prolific as an artist means he's numbers-obsessed lol. I think Drake would have remained the same regardless of how his music performed commercially. He reminds me of an artist like Russ in that regard. He just loves music and loves dabbling in different regional sounds and styles he has an appreciation for. It really isn't deeper than that.
- Aug 20, 2024·1 replyTheFader
Because. The nigga. Has told us. For fifteen. Years.
Nigga, hush. You're saying this because he brags about his success from time to time (something ALL successful rappers do). That doesn't mean he views numbers as his main goal. That's something you made up all on your own.
- Aug 20, 2024·1 replythegreatdivine
It's very obvious that a lot of the disdain y'all have for Drake is just because he has remained commercially successful his entire career. I don't know why anyone who be so angered by that but y'all are f***ing weirdos when it comes to Drake so I guess I shouldn't be that surprised.
EVERY other artist have been dropping wack albums or misses that don’t chart, but none of it matters bc it isn’t Drake 😭
- Aug 20, 2024Elemental
Bragging about your accolades doesn’t make that your main motivation. Drake’s main motivation was always about his love for music lol. Making it big is the dream, but at its core, having a love for the craft is the main motivation
Like yeah, if I'm the biggest and the most dominant figure in any field, I will make it a point to talk my s*** because it isn't easy to do. It doesn't mean that I'm doing what I do only because of what success or money I make from it. That's just common sense.
- Aug 20, 2024Big Dog
EVERY other artist have been dropping wack albums or misses that don’t chart, but none of it matters bc it isn’t Drake 😭
They stay exposing themselves.
- Aug 20, 2024·1 replythegreatdivine
Of course Drake cares about numbers. No one denied that. What people are denying is this insistence that he's obsessed with numbers and numbers are his main reason for making music. That's factually incorrect. Someone obsessed with numbers wouldn't refrain from engaging in all the industry practices to boost their numbers the way Drake does. Someone obsessed with numbers wouldn't butcher numerous releases, which in turn affect how well the songs chart. Someone obsessed with numbers wouldn't have a "marketing plan" for their music that started and ended with "post album album on social media once and never again."
Yes, like all artists, Drake likes that his music is commercially successful and would prefer if it remained so. The point being made is that he doesn't resort to any of the usual industry tactics to ensure that success the way most other artists do. He drops his music and moves on, usually never speaking of it again or promoting it outside of playing the songs at shows. That's not someone whose main focus is numbers. You're confusing him for Taylor Swift.
It can be his main motivation while simultaneously not feeling the need to resort to extraneous tactics.
1. He doesn’t do those because he’s never needed to, he sells well regardless because he is the King of Streaming
2. His team is way too inept to ever successfully pull off a mass bundle/physical run, every time in the last 5 years they’ve tried to do physicals they either get delayed or outright cancelled.
3. He doesn’t have the fanbase that engages in pure sales and merch sales; most of his fanbase is totally content with only streaming his music