This the first time I’ve seen someone try and give reasons
They did not do a good job
WTT was following BP3
That album was a smash hit. Niggas think bc they dont like the album his career was in the gutter lol
BP3 sold 476k first week I think MBDTF did 496k they was literally on the same level thats what made the album so special
definitely true with WTT
but ridiculous saying he needed saving around BP1
How did he save Jay’s career with WTT?
Don’t say nothing opinion based come with some numbers
WTT was following BP3
That album was a smash hit. Niggas think bc they dont like the album his career was in the gutter lol
BP3 sold 476k first week I think MBDTF did 496k they was literally on the same level thats what made the album so special
And ye has prod credits on 7/15 bp3 tracks..
How did he save Jay’s career with WTT?
Don’t say nothing opinion based come with some numbers
People who say this weren’t tapped in at the time, Assuming they’re young
Nobody at the time thought “Wow Kanye’s saving Jay with this one” lmao
They treating Hov like Ty or PND
And ye has prod credits on 7/15 bp3 tracks..
He sold 400k on American Gangster 2 years before with 0 Kanye credits
Why are yall acting like he needed Kanye for sales? How did Kanye save him just because they were collaborators
Yall can say he helped Jay Z for sure but saved him is craxh
People who say this weren’t tapped in at the time, Assuming they’re young
Nobody at the time thought “Wow Kanye’s saving Jay with this one” lmao
They treating Hov like Ty or PND
It was literally just 2 of the biggest rappers making an album
Thats what made it crazy
I have seen it be said that Ye saved Twistas career though lol. Not sure if there’s validity to that,
But I think this Jay Z narrative is definitely new
Save is a weird word
He just helped launch him into mainstream. Twista was sort of an underground sensation off the fast rap.
Jay gets waaaaaay too much hate now days. We dont be appreciating the greats till theyre gone
4 albums between RD and BP that were just okay to pretty good.. bp2 mid, kingdom come, mchg all mid and all minimal kanye production if at all
Okay
I always see people say that
I don’t think they realize he only did 4 songs
He produced 1/3 of the songs which is more than anybody else on the album but it’s still overstated
Jay gets waaaaaay too much hate now days. We dont be appreciating the greats till theyre gone
Niggas on this website act like Hov isn’t even a top 25 rapper lol
Jay actually didnt overly depend on Kanye at all
Hes released several albums without Kanye on them during Kanye’s peak willingly. Niggas act like he put Kanye on every hit single he had
Kanye probably assisted Jay z’s image at various points but I’m not sure if he ever solely was responsible for saying his career
I think the impact may be bigger than what some posters are saying but less than the op is saying
Kinda reminds me of gambino mentioning b&b. Sure the song was big before he did it, but it definitely helped
Niggas on this website act like Hov isn’t even a top 25 rapper lol
His discography iffy but the good stuff is upper echelon tier rap material plus just the fact that he’s that good with one take freestyling is a feat in and of itself
His discography iffy but the good stuff is upper echelon tier rap material plus just the fact that he’s that good with one take freestyling is a feat in and of itself
Man no his discography isn’t iffy
BP2 has too much filler and Kingdom Come is bad
If you wanna say vol 2 & 3 aged bad then alright but vol 2 especially was a major album for its time
The rest of his discography is fire
Im really about to ask yall to explain yall Jay Z takes in depth bc I feel like people just be repeat what they see other people say about him without listening for themselves
Im really about to ask yall to explain yall Jay Z takes in depth bc I feel like people just be repeat what they see other people say about him without listening for themselves
Exactly what happens
Ye starting the “palette” for the blueprint is arguable
Bink was also chopping up soul at the time. Both accused Just Blaze of copying them
Nah it's not arguable. It's documented history that Ye's beat tape is what started Blueprint
Exactly what happens
My tell tell sign is when they lump vol 1 or american gangster in with his “mid albums” like yeah u didnt listen lol
Jay actually didnt overly depend on Kanye at all
Hes released several albums without Kanye on them during Kanye’s peak willingly. Niggas act like he put Kanye on every hit single he had
Go through his catalog and take out the kanye songs. "Saving" is obviously hyperbolic in today's time when everything is either goat or woat, but I think it's fair to question if Jay becomes a global star without those songs