anything that point blank says something negative about Jews as a people.

Kanye didn't say anything that meets that criteria. His statements do count as antisemitic dogwhistles though, so, like i said, he's not off the hook completely.

Basically, he's probably not antisemitic himself at all, but he is pandering to antisemitic people and that's not cool.

Nuance, how dare you

it's the trump tactic man

overwhelm them with dog-whistles and out-of-pocket s***, but be smart and funny about it.

jesus it’s really over

“When I said there were MK Ultra child agents in my home trying to sexualize my kids, I was actually just trolling”

And of course people only want to relitigate the antisemitism aspect, because at the end of the day nobody really gives a f*** if Kanye or any other rapper rails against jewish entertainment industry execs. That's easy to clutch pearls about or defend, alternatively, and good fodder for fights. What you can't f***ing square is the claims about Adidas sending fake kids to his house. You can't square him saying Uvalde was an inside job. You can't square him being MK-Ultra'd during the one presidential administration he was cozy with, then asking the guy to be his VP. You can't square him being woken up by his butler with a tall glass of Grey Goose every day like a f***ing derelict! He's a true freak

It makes sense that he would say that stuff on purpose to get out of his deal, if he thinks he can do better on his own.

People saying the damage is already done are so so wrong.

There was no way he was ever going to sell clothing at the low price points he wants to whilst working under shareholders at GAP and Adidas.

Yeezy x Adidas grew in no time, imagine Yeezy 5 years from now if things go to plan..

none of that will ever justify using anti semitism to essentially make more money

that’s like

literally fascism

What kind of logic is this

Let’s be racist to get out of deals hahahaha

why do you say that?

just because someone uses dog-whistles doesn't mean they'll actually follow through w that s*** once in office. I mean look at Trump, right? He said a LOT of s*** but what did he actually do...

I'd say wait until Kanye makes his actual policies clear before deciding that it'd be a bad thing for him to win. It doesn't seem like he's running a typical republican campaign, so who knows, maybe he'll surprise us all and do some based s***.

I've mentioned this a few times ITT but you know he's hanging with actual white supremacist holocaust deniers atm right, like zero exaggeration

If you're doing that at any point during your presidential campaign, it is an immensely bad idea for you to win imo

These are just populist tactics. To be fair, they are fascist-adjacent, populism and fascism are like 2nd cousins. But lets save the fascism label for actual fascism, lest we end up looking like libtards.

elaborate on the fake kids

OVER

He’s done, no going back to how it was

I can only elaborate as much as he did, which was to say that adidas executives dropped adults impersonating kids off at his house to sexualize his children, whatever the f*** that means

Cristiano Ronaldo just pulled a similar tactic with Man Utd. Walked away from 17 million pounds apparently.

I don't think that means he actually agrees with any of those people. I'm pretty sure it's more a political chess move than anything else. Dude's using antisemitism as a political tool, and that's f***ed up but it doesn't mean he's antisemitic himself.

It's entirely possible that he uses this to grow his campaign, but then drops it, more or less, when he's gotten what he wants out of it. I mean that's just textbook populism. You can't discern a populist's actual beliefs from what they say/do to get elected.

Master manipulator at work

he's lying first of all, second of all it would mean absolutely nothing if he wasn't

populism targeted at nazis and kkk members doesn't have any possible excuse

Look, do I think Ye is the next Hitler? No, but I don't see the point in giving him the benefit of the doubt regarding any of this, this newspaper extract from 1922 is always something to think of when it comes to stuff like this.

If Ye campaigns on an anti-semitic platform due to the influence of these scumbags, there's no real material difference between it coming from his true feelings or not. My personal view is that Kanye is definitely anti-semitic to a degree, and being employed as a useful idiot by people who are REALLY anti-semitic. I don't think looking at the mass of insane behaviour from him in the past 2 months and assuming he probably didn't mean it is a reasonable stance to take at this point. Remember 'red media'? This man is fully immersed into 4chan-level racism right now