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  • KayTray

    A album doesn’t have to be good to be a classic is one of the craziest things I’ve heard on KTT

    That person must get classic and nostalgic confused

  • SinceKumbaya

    “Nobody”

    I don’t personally don’t think it is necessarily but I’ve seen it put up there by a lot of people 🤷

    https://twitter.com/dailyloud/status/1367194924022706179

    https://twitter.com/quakegw/status/1499495367687254017

    https://twitter.com/damewilson9/status/1560055153042104321

    Those tweets aren’t even viral tweets LMAOOO

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    Brah really typed “the massacre classic” into the search bar on twitter and found a tweet with less than 800 likes, a tweet with 2 likes and a tweet with like 30some likes…. But let a mf pull that with someone he doesn’t like and his whole energy will be different lol.

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    Ant Geezy

    If it happens now, it’s gotta be labeled a classic. The last rap album that went diamond was released in 2002. Streaming changed the game. Before that, I didn’t we could get a diamond rap album from a 2010’s rapper. We will get a few by 2030. Recovery, views, scorpion and tc will go diamond. Bunny album will go diamond too.

    I could see GKMC going Diamond one day too

    It’s a hit on Vinyl

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    KayTray

    I could see GKMC going Diamond one day too

    It’s a hit on Vinyl

    if “one day” is the metric then anything can go diamond

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    KayTray

    A album doesn’t have to be good to be a classic is one of the craziest things I’ve heard on KTT

    Good is an opinion. Nothing is going to be liked by everyone

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    Hi Roller

    if “one day” is the metric then anything can go diamond

    Nah nobody is going to be listening to Honestly Nevermind a few months from now so it will never go Diamond.

    Most albums from past eras don’t sell like GKMC. We may see beloved album like Take Care, GKMC, Astroworld, and 2014 FHD go Diamond later this decade because of streaming.

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    CKL TML

    Good is an opinion. Nothing is going to be liked by everyone

    There’s plenty of classic albums I don’t like, but I can still admit are quality.

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    Ant Geezy

    If a rap album go diamond it’s a classic 100%
    I don’t care if the music bad, you can get 10M sales on a album it’s a classic. If scorpion eventually go diamond, it’s a classic.

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    KayTray

    There’s plenty of classic albums I don’t like, but I can still admit are quality.

    Sounds pretentious

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    sports avis and bad music takes

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    CKL TML

    Sounds pretentious

    That’s the opposite of being pretentious

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    A Mad Ass Nigga

    Brah really typed “the massacre classic” into the search bar on twitter and found a tweet with less than 800 likes, a tweet with 2 likes and a tweet with like 30some likes…. But let a mf pull that with someone he doesn’t like and his whole energy will be different lol.

    Like what you're doing right now. It's all opinions at the end of the day, if you don't think it's a classic that opinion is just as valid as their opinion. It's not the end of the world for you if they like it that much

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    The Darkest Angel

    Like what you're doing right now. It's all opinions at the end of the day, if you don't think it's a classic that opinion is just as valid as their opinion. It's not the end of the world for you if they like it that much

    The majority gotta claim something as classic for it to be considered a classic b. I ain’t make the rules.

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    KayTray

    There’s plenty of classic albums I don’t like, but I can still admit are quality.

    If you call them a classic you must like them to some degree

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    The Darkest Angel

    If you call them a classic you must like them to some degree

    no...? i don't like supreme clientele but i know it's one of the best
    earlier hip hop albums + a classic from that era based off of other factors than my personal enjoyment

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    cold mountain

    no...? i don't like supreme clientele but i know it's one of the best
    earlier hip hop albums + a classic from that era based off of other factors than my personal enjoyment

    Exactly. So it doesnt have to be good for you personally lmbo

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    cold mountain

    no...? i don't like supreme clientele but i know it's one of the best
    earlier hip hop albums + a classic from that era based off of other factors than my personal enjoyment

    What objective factors are there that aren’t sales (yeah I know this is a sales thread) I'm curious how you can have a conflicting opinion "I don’t like it but it's a classic"

  • A Mad Ass Nigga

    The majority gotta claim something as classic for it to be considered a classic b. I ain’t make the rules.

    And this is coming from someone that think The Massacre have a small edge on get rich. The massacre is considered a downgrade from his debut album. He was clowned hard.

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    The Darkest Angel

    What objective factors are there that aren’t sales (yeah I know this is a sales thread) I'm curious how you can have a conflicting opinion "I don’t like it but it's a classic"

    acclaim, longevity (as y'all have already covered) and influence (which is the most important thing to me above all else)

    there's also undeniable aspects of classic albums that made them indisputably great, like the production, lyricism, if it innovated/changed music, pushed boundaries etc.

  • CKL TML

    Exactly. So it doesnt have to be good for you personally lmbo

    Yeash exactly. So basically The Massacre or any album that people love can be a classic. I don't know how people itt can act like it objectively isn't when this is art were talking about here. It's all subjective

  • Sep 4, 2022

    the velvet underground & nico for example is an album that fits the bill

    i think that album is an absolute snoozefest and is extremely boring and drab, yet it was very innovative, influential as hell - it also sold poorly at first, the value of that project wasn't seen/felt until years later

    s*** literally pushed 30k copies in five years

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    KayTray

    Nah nobody is going to be listening to Honestly Nevermind a few months from now so it will never go Diamond.

    Most albums from past eras don’t sell like GKMC. We may see beloved album like Take Care, GKMC, Astroworld, and 2014 FHD go Diamond later this decade because of streaming.

    Views and takcare already at 8M and scorpion was around 6.7M a couple mouths ago, will be at 7M going into 2023. Those going diamond by the end of the decade. Also believe more life is close to 6M

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    Ant Geezy

    If a rap album go diamond it’s a classic 100%
    I don’t care if the music bad, you can get 10M sales on a album it’s a classic. If scorpion eventually go diamond, it’s a classic.

    No

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    cold mountain

    acclaim, longevity (as y'all have already covered) and influence (which is the most important thing to me above all else)

    there's also undeniable aspects of classic albums that made them indisputably great, like the production, lyricism, if it innovated/changed music, pushed boundaries etc.

    Acclaim is just as subjective as a review I don't think that's as important as you might think especially since it's really political behind the scenes (Grammys and MTV awards favoring artists that perform)

    Longevity and influence are great indicators for me too honestly. All of Cudi's albums have been in my rotation since they each released and they've influenced my personal life and health so much I don't think I'd be the same man without them. I don't know how objectively you can measure that but I won't deny it but those 2 could apply to any album and artist someone gets attached to and it's still an opinion

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